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Poll: Ultralight hiking vs. Climbing .... which is more dangerous?
ultralight hiking.... mmmm bear treats 2 / 20%
rock climbing...cratering 6 / 60%
undecided 2 / 20%
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8flood8


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My wife is afraid of my upcoming trip to yosemite.

So we were having a debate... about which is more dangerous... her favorite sport (besides climbing) is ultralight long distance hiking...

so i said... it wouldn t be fair of me to not allow you to go hiking because im afraid you might get eaten by a bear...


gosharks


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Ultralight hiking does not even come close to being as dangerous as climbing. What are your arguments for climbing not being as dangerous?


ja1484


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I thinking driving to work or eating red meat is more likely to kill you than either.

If I had to pick from the choices, I'd say climbing probably carries a higher fatality percentage, though I have no basis for that beyond my own guessing.

And if I were to offer some wisdom, I'd point out that no activity is more dangerous than arguing with your wife Laugh


8flood8


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There are simply more ways to die hiking than climbing.


So maybe i should say which is more "potentially" dangerous activity

but really...

you were just supposed to be on my side... so i can go climb...


petsfed


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8flood8 wrote:
My wife is afraid of my upcoming trip to yosemite.

So we were having a debate... about which is more dangerous... her favorite sport (besides climbing) is ultralight long distance hiking...

so i said... it wouldn t be fair of me to not allow you to go hiking because im afraid you might get eaten by a bear...

Well, the typical ultralight hiker probably has his or her skills pretty well honed, which cuts the fatality rate considerably. Climbing is the same way, there's just more n00bs. If you've been climbing for a while, your chances of dieing whilst climbing go down considerably.

The other kicker is that fear, in small quantities, really focuses you into the task at hand. So if you're a little bit scared, you're less likely to make mistakes.

We think of hiking, even ultralight hiking, as pretty free of objective hazards, but the comparative wealth of objective hazards in climbing is offset by the fact that our situation demands our absolute attention at all times. Hiking does not often do that.


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kman


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Climbing in general also includes alpine, ice, mountaineering, can even throw scrambles into the mix. With this in mind I would say that climbing is way more dangerous. I just don't see how backpacking is dangerous if you are prepared for the conditions. Personally I have never felt at risk while backpacking, it's only walking, but with more weight.

To compare crag climbing with remote hiking is also different. The more remote you are the more self reliant you are. Still not sure that dangerous would be a good way to describe it though Unsure Bears really are not that bad. They normally run away.


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8flood8


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lol


Partner climbinginchico


May 2, 2007, 4:36 AM
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For you, climbing is markedly more dangerous.


zeth01


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I do both
theres no question about it that climbing is much more dangerous


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Neither climbing or hiking are dangerous.

People are dangerous

In all outdoor activities you are constantly assessing and modifying the risks you take. Its up to you how risky you wanna make things.

Arguing with the wife could be more dangerous than both these activities.Sly


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