jeff_m
Just because some one wrote a book and every one follows like a dumb ass means nothing to me.
Do your own homework, do research, see the facts, then come back and show me what you got.

Ps. I seen the book and I have noticed technical errors in it and that is a shame but this is not the place to talk about .

I belay off anchor all the time and it is safe. Kirk is also among the few top experts in rope/system in north America .

I'm not trying to kick him when he's down ('cuz we all know how down he is), but he asserted in another post:


This was in reply to belaying a LEAD climber directly from the anchor, which most will regard as a bad idea. However Majid asserts:


Anyhow, I just want to offer up a thread in which to Mr. Sabet can expound on the dumbass and incorrect information in the book. I pride myself on being a safe climber and would like to see where John Long and Bob Gaines have put us all at considerable risk.

So, please Majid, the forum is yours.

All hot and buttery...
(If he flakes on this one, it's killfile time.)

I'm not trying to kick him when he's down ('cuz we all know how down he is), but he asserted in another post:


This was in reply to belaying a LEAD climber directly from the anchor, which most will regard as a bad idea. However Majid asserts:


Anyhow, I just want to offer up a thread in which to Mr. Sabet can expound on the dumbass and incorrect information in the book. I pride myself on being a safe climber and would like to see where John Long and Bob Gaines have put us all at considerable risk.

So, please Majid, the forum is yours.

"I am a beginner who wants to learn about climbing like any one else and I have never claim to be any kind of expert on any thing so do not attach that label to me."

You say that he is talking about LEAD belaying off an anchor, yet in your quote he only mentions belaying off an anchor, and does not specify if the person is leading or not. Do you have a link. Can I have some popcorn?

I don't recall him saying that John long and Gaines put everyone at considerable risks as you say jeff_m. Shooting from the hip here but, I think what he was getting at is that there were some things in the book that have proven over time to not be not quite as good as some newer ways.

But hey, don't let me rain on your parade.

Quite frankly, Jeff, you came into that thread with a confrontational attitude, making assumptions about what majid would think and say, and just generally coming off like a bit of an in-your-face asshole.

I know that RC.com is the shit-on-Majid club, but if you're going to start threads attacking how unreasonable Majid is, you may want to at least pretend to have started the conversation with him in a civil, constructive manner.


Edited to add: And I think Majid's point was that you can't just take someone's word for it because they're an expert. You have to check out different ideas on the topic and weigh the evidence yourself before making a decision. If we just accepted everything that experts told us, asthmatics would still be being told to smoke and cars wouldn't go above 50/hr. It's good to listen to what the experts have to say, but not to simply accept everything they assert as gospel.

Quite frankly, Jeff, you came into that thread with a confrontational attitude, making assumptions about what majid would think and say, and just generally coming off like a bit of an in-your-face asshole.

I know that RC.comis the shit-on-Majid club, but if you're going to start threads attacking how unreasonable Majid is, you may want to at least pretend to have started the conversation with him in a civil, constructive manner.

I think they're referring to the updated book in which those "newer ways" are promoted over the old standards (specifically cordelettes).

Here's the thread which, you can see by the title, pretty much explains what we're talking about:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...apsed;guest=20471314

I know that RC.com is the shit-on-Majid club, but if you're going to start threads attacking how unreasonable Majid is, you may want to at least pretend to have started the conversation with him in a civil, constructive manner.


Edited to add: And I think Majid's point was that you can't just take someone's word for it because they're an expert. You have to check out different ideas on the topic and weigh the evidence yourself before making a decision. If we just accepted everything that experts told us, asthmatics would still be being told to smoke and cars wouldn't go above 50/hr. It's good to listen to what the experts have to say, but not to simply accept everything they assert as gospel.

Funny,

He just claimed to not be an expert:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...9;page=unread#unread


Now, he is correcting those who are. This, amongst many other claims of expertise. I know he can't find a girlfriend, but my question is, how does he find a climbing partner? What a tool.

You are trying to push an army tank with a ford PINTO.

C'mon everyone, let's all of us just try to get along...

Now if y'all will just spend a few minutes enjoying this link, you'll feel much, much better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnRXmMn2Ag

Peace

try googling majid_sabet and you'll spend hours trawling through Turkish porn.

...I think the answer is anonymity ... he once claimed his user name was his actual name: try googling majid_sabet and you'll spend hours trawling through Turkish porn.

If you are trying to establish your seat in RC by posting semi personal attack post and push things around, please do not use PINTO.

I think the answer is anonymity ... he once claimed his user name was his actual name: try googling majid_sabet and you'll spend hours trawling through Turkish porn. I know his sense of humor isn't to everyone's taste and he does push it too far sometimes, but he must have some idea about climbing and he can't possibly be as bad in real life. Though I might be wrong.