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granite_grrl
Sep 10, 2007, 3:19 PM
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anykineclimb wrote: wow. holds are bigger than I thought they'd be.
Aye, not very technical. Its nice that the holes are reinforced, but they are very very deep making for easy hooking on steep angles (including roofs).
I just got a set last week and have only hung around on them. I hope to set an easier route with them this week on my home wall (I like the easy hooking, good for someone like me without a lot of dry tooling experiance yet).
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anykineclimb
Sep 10, 2007, 4:53 PM
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I should be getting mine here soon also. look forward to playing on them.
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treemonkey
Sep 10, 2007, 6:25 PM
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I'm glad the video made it up. I'm very new to dry tooling and was just climbing so Woody could get some photos and video for you guys to see them in action.
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linagirl
Sep 12, 2007, 11:08 AM
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Post a pic?
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anykineclimb
Sep 12, 2007, 3:05 PM
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So how are you guys using the hold with no hole? (the "horn" thingy) I'm thinking either on a roof or turning it sideways to hook on. also, how are they doing durability-wise?
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granite_grrl
Sep 13, 2007, 12:01 PM
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anykineclimb wrote: So how are you guys using the hold with no hole? (the "horn" thingy) I'm thinking either on a roof or turning it sideways to hook on. also, how are they doing durability-wise?
I was playing with this hold last night, and I couldn't quite figure it out. I only tried a couple of things, but it wasn't the nicest hooking hold. I think you could but I was going to gouge the heck out of my home wall if I didn't put something behind it first. Tis the mature of dry tooling on the home wall I guess.
If I have time to spend on the wall tonight I'll see about sticking it on the roof.
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treemonkey
Sep 13, 2007, 3:47 PM
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(This post was edited by treemonkey on Sep 13, 2007, 8:15 PM)
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anykineclimb
Sep 13, 2007, 4:30 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: anykineclimb wrote: So how are you guys using the hold with no hole? (the "horn" thingy) I'm thinking either on a roof or turning it sideways to hook on. also, how are they doing durability-wise? I was playing with this hold last night, and I couldn't quite figure it out. I only tried a couple of things, but it wasn't the nicest hooking hold. I think you could but I was going to gouge the heck out of my home wall if I didn't put something behind it first. Tis the mature of dry tooling on the home wall I guess. If I have time to spend on the wall tonight I'll see about sticking it on the roof.
I'll probably add some thin plywood behind them to protect the wall.
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granite_grrl
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anykineclimb wrote: granite_grrl wrote: anykineclimb wrote: So how are you guys using the hold with no hole? (the "horn" thingy) I'm thinking either on a roof or turning it sideways to hook on. also, how are they doing durability-wise? I was playing with this hold last night, and I couldn't quite figure it out. I only tried a couple of things, but it wasn't the nicest hooking hold. I think you could but I was going to gouge the heck out of my home wall if I didn't put something behind it first. Tis the mature of dry tooling on the home wall I guess. If I have time to spend on the wall tonight I'll see about sticking it on the roof. I'll probably add some thin plywood behind them to protect the wall.
Its been done with a few other holds on there, just been too lazy seeing as I'm moving stuff around a lot right now.
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arabinnite
Sep 14, 2007, 4:55 AM
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Hey, I know this is the wrong thread but you (treemonkey) seem to know a little about Woodys Holds stuff. http://www.dailyclimber.com is running rails 2 for $48 and free ship. Have you used them? Good Price?
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aja175
Sep 14, 2007, 12:51 PM
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builttospill wrote: ha, never would've guessed a guy working at or running a climbing hold company would have a blackberry.
Everybody should have a blackberry! I'd be lost without mine. My dad used a typewriter until the early 90's, now if he gets an email on his berry 5 minutes late he's calling me wondering why it doesn't work.
And yes. Blackberry + climber = ...
never mind
I got nothin.
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sandstone
Sep 14, 2007, 3:07 PM
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I put a bunch of slots in my wall using a laminate trimmer (small handheld router) with a 1/4" end mill bit. It's quick and easy, and you can put them at any angle and location you like, and best of all there are no holds to buy. Most of my slots go all the way through the plywood, but for a few I set the bit so it left a thin back wall in the slot. I don't swing in the slots, I just place the pick and pull.
I also drilled some pockets with a forstner bit, not going all they way through the plywood. Plywood is too soft to hold up to an ice pick, so I coated the inside of the holes with epoxy resin. For even more durability, put something hard (a little strip of sheetmetal, or whatever you have) in the bottom of the hole and epoxy it in place. That spreads out the load from the pick, and keeps the wood fibers from shearing apart.
If you're going to make bolt-on holds out of wood, use a really hard wood (go ahead, let the jokes fly :-). I've got some holds, just very basic shapes for hooking with the pick, that I made years ago from an old and dry block of cherry, and they have held up just fine. If it's hard to cut with a hand saw, then it's hard enough to stand up to ice picks.
As for training my swing, I tried setting up a few things (wood, foam), and gave it up pretty quick because I don't think it does any good. It's not close enough to how ice feels and sounds, and it never will be. Standing on the floor I train what little swinging muscles I have by "swinging" with a weight (a mini sledge hammer or a cast iron frying pan works great). If anyone says you look stupid, just knock them with the frying pan, and they'll quit saying that.
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fatcat
Sep 19, 2007, 6:43 PM
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Have a look at:
http://www.mrclimbing.com/eng05/drytooling.html
http://www.globeclimbing.com - ICE series. (Works best on vertical or slightly overhanging walls)
I use a mixture of these holds, hard wood strips, real roacks and homemade resin holds on my wall for a bit of variety
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fatcat
Sep 19, 2007, 7:02 PM
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forgot http://www.lapisholds.com ICE series
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anykineclimb
Sep 19, 2007, 7:11 PM
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thanks for those links!
hows the shipping cost? assuming you're in the US
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fatcat
Sep 19, 2007, 7:13 PM
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Sorry - I'm in the UK !
Wasnt cheap to ship to me - bit of a luxury item but the MR's in particular are good. Think they are used in the Ice World Cup
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anykineclimb
Sep 19, 2007, 7:17 PM
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yeah, thos MRs look NICE.
might just have to suck it up and get some. I know Globe is Canadian so the shipping should be more reasonable
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linagirl
Oct 20, 2007, 1:44 AM
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I use these every chance I get since I found them at the wall.
Some of you got them do you use them?
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JohnCook
Oct 20, 2007, 4:36 AM
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In the late 60's I taught myself to ice climb (In the UK theres never a lot of good ice) by going into the local wood (forest) and finding a big tree with smooth bark and climbing that. Can even be done in summer. Recently a friend also tried this with very modern tools and said it worked great. Its also easy to rig topropes.
The damage to the tree is minimal if you avoid using the same tree too often.
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anykineclimb
Oct 21, 2007, 11:37 PM
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JohnCook wrote: The damage to the tree is minimal if you avoid using the same tree too often.
better yet, use a standing dead tree. don't hack on a live tree!
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JohnCook
Oct 21, 2007, 11:50 PM
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T'was many years ago (39) before there was a great outcry about conservation. The damage is minimal if you don't overstrike and kick. The trees of this size in the area I am talking about were scheduled for felling. This is not an excuse. In those days I was just an ignorant british teenager. Now I'm possibly just and ignorant, misunderstood british geriatric.
But good point. Barn walls are good if no-one objects. Check first. Have also climbed on stacks of oilseed rape bales. The axes hold if the stalks are horizontal, slip through if they are vertical, just like very steep snow and aerated water ice.
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arabinnite
Dec 7, 2007, 2:56 AM
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Okey... So I will soon see if my investment of time and money in the ice holds has paid off. I am almost to the
Sandstone Ice Festival in MN (First real Ice Climb)
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justafurnaceman
Dec 9, 2007, 4:02 PM
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Great video! I'm going to talk to the local gym owner and see if he'll let me put some up. Here in Texas there isn't a lot of ice but I still would like to stay in shape for ice.
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aja175
Dec 9, 2007, 5:29 PM
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They're on sale, almost 50% off today
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