how far do you think i can go with them?

hey there... i was wondering if there are some boy scouts here that could help me with something...

i am planing to lead a trip for our scout troop, using our venture crew as youh supervisors. i myself am one of the venutres, and im a "assistant climbing instructor" at the army gym wall. i've had a lot of experience, thank god nothing really bad, and i feel confident at teaching belaying with 8's, grigri's, and ATC's. they do not need to know anything very specific to fullfil the merit badge requirements, but how far do you think i can go with them?

i already ruled out lead and multi-pitch. i remember the cramps my first climb.

thanks,

kest

A qualified rock climbing instructor who is at least 21 years of age must supervise all BSA climbing/rappelling activities. A currently trained BSA climbing director or instructor is highly recommended. Contact your local council or regional service center to locate a qualified individual. The climbing instructor has successfully completed a minimum of 10 hours of instructor training for climbing/rappelling from a nationally or regionally recognized organization, a climbing school, a college-level climbing/rappelling course.

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hey there... i was wondering if there are some boy scouts here that could help me with something...

i am planing to lead a trip for our scout troop, using our venture crew as youh supervisors. i myself am one of the venutres, and im a "assistant climbing instructor" at the army gym wall. i've had a lot of experience, thank god nothing really bad, and i feel confident at teaching belaying with 8's, grigri's, and ATC's. they do not need to know anything very specific to fullfil the merit badge requirements, but how far do you think i can go with them?

i already ruled out lead and multi-pitch. i remember the cramps my first climb.

thanks,

kest

<i>1. Do the following:

a. Show that you know first aid for and how to prevent injuries or illnesses that could occur during climbing activities, including heat and cold reactions, dehydration, stopped breathing, sprains, abrasions, fractures, rope burns, blisters, snakebite, and insect bites or stings.
b. Identify the conditions that must exist before performing CPR on a person.

2. Learn the Leave No Trace principles and Outdoor Code, and explain what they mean.
3. Present yourself properly dressed for belaying, climbing, and rappelling (i.e., appropriate clothing, footwear, and a helmet; rappellers and belayers must also wear gloves).
4. Location. Do the following:

a. Explain how the difficulty of climbs is classified, and apply classifications to the rock faces or walls where you will demonstrate your climbing skills.
b. Explain the following: top-rope climbing, lead climbing, and bouldering.
c. Evaluate the safety of a particular climbing area. Consider weather, visibility, the condition of the climbing surface, and any other environmental hazards.
d. Determine how to summon aid to the climbing area in case of an emergency.

5. Verbal signals. Explain the importance of using verbal signals during every climb and rappel, and while bouldering. With the help of the merit badge counselor or another Scout, demonstrate the verbal signals used by each of the following:

a. Climbers
b. Rappellers
c. Belayers
d. Boulderers and their spotters

6. Rope. Do the following:

a. Describe the kinds of rope acceptable for use in climbing and rappelling.
b. Show how to examine a rope for signs of wear or damage.
c. Discuss ways to prevent a rope from being damaged.
d. Explain when and how a rope should be retired.
e. Properly coil a rope.

7. Knots. Demonstrate the ability to tie each of the following knots. Give at least one example of how each knot is used in belaying, climbing, or rappelling.

a. Figure eight on a bight
b. Figure eight follow-through
c. Water knot
d. Double fisherman's knot (grapevine knot)
e. Safety knot

8. Harnesses. Correctly put on at least ONE of the following:

a. Commercially made climbing harness
b. Tied harness

9. Belaying. Do the following:

a. Explain the importance of belaying climbers and rappellers and when it is necessary.
b. Belay three different climbers ascending a rock face or climbing wall.
c. Belay three different rappellers descending a rock face or climbing wall using a top rope.

10. Climbing. Do the following:

a. Show the correct way to tie into a belay rope.
b. Climb at least three different routes on a rock face or climbing wall, demonstrating good technique and using verbal signals with a belayer.

11. Rappelling. Do the following:

a. Using a carabiner and a rappel device, secure your climbing harness to a rappel rope.
b. Tie into a belay rope set up to protect rappellers.
c. Rappel down three different rock faces or three rappel routes on a climbing wall. Use verbal signals to communicate with a belayer, and demonstrate good rappelling technique.

12. Demonstrate ways to store rope, hardware, and other gear used for climbing, rappelling, and belaying.</I>

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As much as I loathe BSA

Why do you loathe them? Sure there are a lot of idiot kids, and idiot adults in it, but let's face it, there are a lot of idiot kids and adults all throughout life.

By no means is the BSA a be all and end all to the outdoors, but it is a good introduction to a lot of people who then go on to really become competent later in life.

The only thing that gets me is that there are certain indivisuals in it who don't realize that it is only an introduction and not a be all and end all.

Why do you loathe them?

I have my reasons. They're mine, so don't ask.

I've experienced more of the idiots than non-idiots. It's pretty consistant regardless of where you are at. Regardless of BSA or not. Though BSA is a good place for them to all get together and be idiots together.

They also hate gays and atheists, at least at a national policy level. As an eagle scout, the contradictions in the program's stated moral values and demonstrated moral values are disturbing.

The association between scouting and the gay/atheist rules remain purely because of its association with the Mormon Church. On an indivisual level, the organization is generally very tolerent. As much as the general population as a whole is at least.

Meh, if you dislike it, you should join in and make changes and introduce an attitude that you apreciate.

Kids are very malliable.....it is a mentor based organisation....so educate away!