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ddt


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Hi everyone,

You may have noticed that the name of this forum was changed from "Aid Climbing" to "Big Wall and Aid Climbing". This was based on a suggestion and subsequent discussion here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=1686763#1686763

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DDT


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Now there is a news worthy post..........


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This forum shall henceforth and forever be known as BWAC.


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Thank god!


tallnik


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BWAC!

Don't you just want to shout it? sounds great.

Nik


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pmyche wrote:
Moving cargo up a giant cliff is not aid climbing. Hunkering out a storm on a vert face isn't aid climbing. Freeing out of your aiders, treating separated nails, rapping with a pig, jugging your leader's free pitch and solar-powered tunes are not aid climbing. But those OT subjects get discussed in "Aid Climbing" because A.C. hints at big wall climbing.
Um, yes. Yes they are. They are not OT, as they are all aspects of aid climbing. There's really no point to learning "aid" climbing if you've no desire to do something "big" with the skills learned. Aid climbing is all-inclusive, in that to successfully pull off an "aid" climb of any significance, one had better get their shit together on something much smaller than a "big" wall, else risk paying a steep price for failure, be it in travel expenses, missed objectives or lives lost.

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I'm not sure if climbers go to small crags to aid pitches for their own sake. I've done it, but always as training for larger objectives. Sure, it's still fun...
Really, is there any other reason to "aid" climb shorter aid lines than to foster dreams and disillusions as to one's ability to tackle something anyone+everyone would regard as actually significant? No one crows about their successful ascent of a 3 pitch A5 on a job application, but even one ascent of El Cap would make quite an impression on a prospective employer (no doubt), regardless of WHAT line one climbed or the style it in which it was accomplished.

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I might have a streak of utopianism, but thanks for considering anyway.

...and your suggestions are usually so good. Why did you find it necessary now to dumb it down for the idiot masses? I guess in this instance I'm all for the status quo, in that if someone can't figure out the "Big Walls" and "Aid Climbing" are one and the same (for us mere mortals), they probably shouldn't even bother reading about it, much less trying to learn a new skill-set. Anyone qualified to actually free climb a "big wall" probably doesn't need any advice from anyone around these parts (or anywhere, for that matter). Oh well, I suppose what's done is done.

I'll cross-post this for no definable reason, other than I just feel like it. Revert back to the original forum title. The new title is oxymoronic.


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I'm happy that big-wall has a home, and many of the skill sets needed for alpine big-walls are aid skills... so let's leave the new title.


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I don't mind the new title but I agree with Stym that aid climbing and big walls are pretty obviously interconnected.


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