an awesome site & forums for those of you who are serious about the business side of adventure sports photography, make sure you check out this site; http://www.wheelsandwax.com/

it is an absolutely invaluable tool if you are trying to make it in the industry. we now have our own rock forums, so make sure you utilize them for critiques of your best new shots!

cheerio,
jc

Thanks for the link. Can you clarify why this site in Invaluable to anyone trying to make it in the industry. I wonder if it’s not a typo on you original post, maybe you meant to say unvaluable. (not a real word, but understandable.
I must have overlooked all the great recourses and information on this Adventure sport Photography resource.

Anyways,
Thanks Again
Eman

i can see potential for it...book marked it and added it to my RSS news reader under photography.

RSS feeds are great, no need to visit the site unless something intrigues you.

Anyway, the site isn't much now, looks like it might fill a niche at some point as it evolves.

I do think its funny how technology has jaded us. A few years ago the D70s was the bomb, now people claim you can't take a good photo with it (from the site I inferred this).

Sure there are faster cameras but the D70s didn't slow down, the others just got faster. I wonder how people were creating images for the last 3 years!!!!

Can you clarify why this site in Invaluable to anyone trying to make it in the industry

If you would like, I can continue?

please Josh, may I?

W&W is a fanatic group of sports shooters who simply want to capture the beauty of their chosen sport and display it to the world.
If you fit this description, please join. If you are just looking to make a quick buck, look elsewhere.

This is definitely true. But even if not constructively critiqued, if you have any self respect, as you post images regularly you will be driven to do better. You will become more in tune to what is good and bad.

Personally, even though a site like flickr is mostly Rah rah, great photo, I'm driven to make each one better than the last as I try to come up with either new, or better ideas on a regular basis.

If anything, I think the digital age has seen an increasing talent pool of photographers not because it's cheaper to experiment, but because you aren't locked in a bubble (as one of you noted above). And because you can readily compare it to many many many many more sources than in the analog age.

12 years ago, my reference points were a few AP photogs in the newpaper, or a few SI guys. Maybe a few photographers in a climbing mag. Basically, it was a very closed way to see and learn. Feedback was your friends and family at most.

Ever wonder why those people trying out for American Idol truly think they are good? No one ever told them they weren't because they would only sing for friends and family. Thats what a closed feedback loop does.

Of course people without talent, desire, and self respect never will get better regardless. so some things don't change with the medium.

please Josh, may I?
W&W joins leading photographers and photo editors from nearly every action sports field into one place to critique your images. Rather than shooting in a vacuum by yourself you can be exposed to cutting edge images and image makers. When you throw yourself into the deep end of the pool you will learn how to swim.
W&W is not solely about how to make money in the photo industry, it's a collection of like-minded individuals who want to push each other to make the best images possible.
W&W is a fanatic group of sports shooters who simply want to capture the beauty of their chosen sport and display it to the world.
If you fit this description, please join. If you are just looking to make a quick buck, look elsewhere.

Just because a site says it does something, doesn't mean it happens.

Even Flickrs has a few user groups that are good for critics and comments.

I'm not going to argue with you matey, I KNOW what the site is & does... I know who posts there and have a decent idea of who is lurking. I know it has helped me & a lot of other photographers. And I know that it won't really affect me if you don't want to take advantage of the site as a resource but I believe it's your loss.



I'm not recommending it on a blurb, I'm recommending it on my personal experiences as an active member of the site since it was launched in Jan '05.

guangzhou,
There is a large private section of W&W accessed by invite. If your images are of a high quality you can contact the administrator for an invitation.
The great thing is I have seen members start out with terrible shots, work hard and take their work to a very high standard, eventually making contact with the world's leading action-sports editors.
The standard W&W shot is of a much higher quality than the typical Flickr or stock pool and W&W offers a structured way to improve your shooting and eventually play with the big boys.
While you are not seeing the best that W&W has to offer, have faith that if you improve your shooting you could have a chance to work with the world's best sports photographers.