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atg200
Sep 17, 2002, 7:42 PM
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How can you eliminate an entire type of rock?
Easy. I dislike climbing limestone - it just doesn't hold any interest to me whatsoever. Thankfully, there are thousands of routes on granite and sandstone within 2 hours of my house, and more than I could do within a lifetime if I drive for 6 hours. Now, if I am willing to travel to say Joshua Tree, Red Rocks, or Yosemite, I've just added another couple of thousand routes. Now add New Hampshire, the Gunks, TWall, and Looking Glass, and I have a few thousand more routes to do. Now add Index, Squamish, the Bugaboos - well, you get the idea.
Why on earth would I waste my time on a sort of rock that I don't enjoy when there is so much to do that I do enjoy?
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cedk
Sep 17, 2002, 8:13 PM
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Gunks is limestone isn't it?
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atg200
Sep 17, 2002, 8:35 PM
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No, the Gunks is quartz conglomerate. Absolutely nothing like limestone.
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scradje
Sep 17, 2002, 11:42 PM
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I'd have to say that I've never climbed on Limestone, but have climbed on Granite and LOVED it. I reckon that its the best climbing rock out there. Sandstone is almost as good, but never climb mudstone, Holds break off all the time. Trust me!
Go Granite
Chris
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wyclimber
Sep 19, 2002, 1:25 AM
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Cammy, I'll have to agree, the splitters in Indian Creek are superbalishious! But wait aren't there other types of climbs there too?! Ones that aren't consistant? Take Supercrack Buttress for example: the variety of climbs nestled on that one crag are very diverse and all are trad AND share the same kind of stone.
From what I read, you like sandstone for what IC offered you on some of its pitches - parallel sided cracks with no other features. It's cool that you found something you dig, but part of what makes climbing so much fun is the exploring. Take what you know you like and look for it elsewhere, you will never cease to be amazed at what you find. Please don't rule anything out!
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gambler
Sep 19, 2002, 2:07 AM
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Yeah...that granite stuff really sucks,when all you get to do is lousy routes like Astroman in the Valley,Grand Wall and Freeway at Squamish,the Needles in Sequoia....why should we subject ourselves to such chosspiles
gambler
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aarong
Oct 18, 2002, 7:30 PM
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You're right cedk, Krispy Creme donute ARE just donuts...why the hell would someone wait in a drive thru line for 20 minutes for a goddamn donut?
(unless it's a chocolate long-john, ummmm)
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lox
Oct 18, 2002, 10:39 PM
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Granite sucks.
Limestone rocks your dome.
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tanner
Oct 18, 2002, 11:13 PM
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I like granite. It looks cool. it hold gear realy well. The slabs are interesting. the cracks are so nice to climb. The evolved sand stone of the skaha bluffs I really liked because it was really sharp and featured. I would love to climb any good rock!
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lox
Oct 18, 2002, 11:13 PM
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Crack kills.
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pusherem
Oct 18, 2002, 11:54 PM
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Man o man, i think its funny how some of you guys are bashing granite...mabey you just suck at climbing it, mabey you arent confident enough to NOT place cams in your limestone and just pretend you have a pair of testicles, suck it up and climb. What a bunch of whiners man, bithching about how you cant handle the difficulty of climbing granite. complain all you want about the "lack of features"...mabey you arent looking hard enough or mabey you just suck and you cant deal.
hell yeah
Eric
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lox
Oct 18, 2002, 11:56 PM
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Uhh... I flash like v8 on granite.
Granite sucks.
Especially compared to the steep, gymnastic climbing of comfortable, fingery limestone.
Is that well enough informed for you ?
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freudian
Oct 19, 2002, 1:19 AM
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Camhead:
What is your favorite type of rock to climb? So far, in New Brunswick, Canada, the best climbing is on Granite. This rock is often very coarse and sharp. This is a good thing, IMO, cause it helps your fingers and hands grip it better. The not-so-good climbing areas local to me are not granite. The are limestone or similar smooth rock. I hate smooth rock because its much more difficult to 'friction' on... etc.
I love my granite. I can't wait to travel and try Quartzite and check out Sandstone and Basalt.
To wrap it all up... I always leave the crag with scratches all over my forearms, ankles, and usually some cuts and deep scrapes on my knuckles. That is all welcomed by me. No pain, no gain (except with shoes, make sure they fit firsT)
Freudian
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lox
Oct 19, 2002, 1:31 AM
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You know.. it's correct to say that yor area influences your prefernce.
Here, our granite is choss but the limestone ROCKS.
Elsewhere, it's reversed.
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coclimber26
Oct 19, 2002, 3:20 PM
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I'm with you...I don't care for Granite. I hate slabs and think granite has less friction than limestone or the local sandstone. Don't get me wrong 11 mile canyon or the south plate are excellent places and I go there all the time but I'd rather be at the limestone of Shelf road or the mixed sandstone of Eldorado Canyon....Although I wouldn't pass up a trip to Yosemite
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petsfed
Oct 19, 2002, 5:22 PM
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I'm no fan of soft rock because I lack the ability, equipment and to a lesser extent, the balls to climb it comfortably. Thus on my one trip to Moab, I didn't enjoy myself terribly well.
I'm used to climbing much harder rock like the Dakota Sandstone of Eldo, or the granite in Boulder Canyon, or Vedauwoo. Every piece I place inspires confidence. Mind you I have to tape up my entire body at Vedauwoo, and there is little serenity in the Front Range, but its a worthy trade off. I figure if there's a type of rock I don't like, its probably because I'm not as good a climber as I'd like to be. The notable exception is of course, choss, but who really wants to be good at climbing that anyway?
But what the hell do I know? I'm just a cookie. - Reverse side of particularly rare fortune cookie fortune.
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boulderpaul
Oct 19, 2002, 5:52 PM
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granite is the best rock ever. go to the buttermilks!
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lox
Oct 19, 2002, 7:58 PM
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The buttermilks are quartz monzonite.
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bighigaz
Oct 19, 2002, 8:01 PM
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All you granite haters need to stop complaining and accept granite for what it is. I've climbed on slabs, cracks, face climbs, all granite, and to tell you the truth, I LOVE IT! If there ever was a basic definition of "rock" in the dictionary, it should use a picture of granite as the perfect example. Reliable, beautiful, sometimes sharp, sometimes forgiving. ALWAYS fun! It feels warm in the sun, even on cold days. I smile when I look at a big granite chunk of rock... it makes me quiver with excitement and fear. Sandstone is nice, and sure the cracks are quality, but if you want the whole experience, granite is the main ingredient.
Basalt is interesting, but it sucks the chalk of your hands. Limestone, especially pocketed, is always fun, but show me 2 or 3,000 feet of it, and I'll be pretty suprised...
Okay, I can't resist... "Don't take granite for granted!!!"
James.
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lox
Oct 19, 2002, 8:07 PM
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Who gives a f--- about slabs, cracks and face climbs ?
The MONEY CLIMBING is all steep, gymnastic and deadpoint specific, with your feet cutting all over the place...
SYENITE PORPHYRY IS THE BEST.
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rockram
Oct 19, 2002, 8:19 PM
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Climbing is climbing! I love it ALL! No matter what type of rock, ice, plastic, or whatever...it's all a BLAST!
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lox
Oct 19, 2002, 8:27 PM
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Duh...
Every fraternity is overweight white boys who swill booze and kiss each other when they can't pick up women, but they divide in these little houses to have fun with each other.
Climba Rocka Limestone RULES !!!111
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