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kantkatchme


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so i know that no one here can tell me what i want... but i thought i would see what you had to say...

im having a hard time deciding where to get a tattoo...
i dont need anyone to tell me about how they are permanent and that i had better like cause its never coming off... i already have my whole back done.. as well as a few others... but all of my tattoos are easily hidden.

my dilemma is this: I really want to get this one on my arm. above my elbow on the inside... my problem is that im going to law school in the fall.. when im a lawyer how much of a problem will this be? school doesnt matter so much, but as a professional i imagine it will.
i know a buch of you on here have tattoos, if you have to cover them for work how does that work for you? I dont have a problem 6 months of the year, but when its nice and i would like to wear short sleves i wont be able too. im not sure thats a sacrifice that i am willing to make..
i guess what i really want to know is how you deal with it..
i was also thinking of getting it done on my ribs, just under my bra stap.. it will hurt like a bitch.. ive already had the other side done... but at least it will b easy to cover.. i just really wanted someting on my arm... grr.. why did i have to want to be a profesional..

what do you people think..
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You say above your elbow. You talking about the inside part of your biceps?

If so, that should be easily hidden by t-shirt sleeves. Your artist, assuming they have a modicum of skill, should be able to do the tat "sleeve length." I have one on my left arm, outside part of the biceps, and it's covered by a t-shirt (unless the shirt is kinda small, in which case you can just barely see the very bottom of the design.)

The other thing is the tastefullness of the tat. A decent piece of art is generally not frowned upon as much as, say, a skull with a dagger through the head, snakes coming out from the eyes, blood dripping from the teeth, and "Aryan Brotherhood 4 Ever!" scribed below.


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yes inside part of biceps....
the thing is i dont want it up high enough that a short sleeve will cover it. i guess rib cage it is. haha

plus it isnt the most graceful piece of art..its something that a bunch of friends are getting...


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kantkatchme wrote:
plus it isnt the most graceful piece of art..its something that a bunch of friends are getting...

Then you're doing it for the wrong reasons, and nothing anyone tells you is going to matter a damn.

Getting a tattoo that all your friends are getting. How very dumb.


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no its not dumb... its a memory.. but thanks.. im not gtting it becuase they are.. we are getting it together.. to remember someone who we lost.. dont tell me m reasons are dumb... ive had enough ink done to kow what is a stupid idea and what isnt.

edit: maybe it is a stupid idea, but at this point im gonna do it anyways.. :) i should know what im getting into when i post here.. ill sit and take it now...


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kantkatchme wrote:
ive had enough ink done to kow what is a stupid idea and what isnt.

then you should be able to tell yourself the answer to this question, shouldn't you?

unless you actually want opinions from lawyers, not ink-owners.

my tats are highly visible, quite tasteful, and never ever a problem.


kantkatchme


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have you had to go to court? ive seen one of yours.. i like it..
i just dont know if havig it on my arm will bother me when im all grown up and have to be presentable in a professional manner.

i guess i was hoping for professional people with ink to answer. thanks Mrs.Z


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kantkatchme wrote:
have you had to go to court? ive seen one of yours.. i like it..
i just dont know if havig it on my arm will bother me when im all grown up and have to be presentable in a professional manner.

i guess i was hoping for professional people with ink to answer. thanks Mrs.Z

Rule 1 of getting a tat: Never get one that you don't want for the rest of your life.

Rule 2: Never get one in a place that you can't hide from your grandmother or a judge.

And you HAVE gotten answers from professionals with ink work. You just didn't like those answers.


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I have no tattoos.... My only experience with them was seeing my brother, who is a tattoo artist, give them to others and the one's he's gotten himself.

But if your concern is about hiding them in work situation, I would see what other lawyers have to say. The things I would consider are:
- For interviews and when actually in court, it's unlikely that you will be wearing a short-sleeved shirt, isn't it?
- The big issue, I'd guess, is how you would be seen within your firm and how it would affect your ability to rise within if your peers and superiors know about the tattoos.

I assume that in some conservative firms that might be a big issue.

I don't know about law firms, but I can tell you that lawyers are just like everyone else in that they have "things" they don't necessarily trot out at work, but that don't mean they aren't kinky as get out "on the inside." In fact, some people really get a rush out of having their little "secret" and being viewed by the general population as very straight-laced and conservative....

I bet if you went on a lawyers forum that had a community0like atmosphere(they must exist, right?), you would find out that many other lawyers have dealt with the issue and have good advice.

My sister-in-law has a remembrance tattoo, for her first-born child who was premature and alive outside her womb for only a few days before she and my brother had to make the decision to take him off life support. Poor little Guage,RIP.

Her tattoo is quite large, a crying angel surrounded by lilies. She has it high on her inner thigh.


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reno wrote:
kantkatchme wrote:
have you had to go to court? ive seen one of yours.. i like it..
i just dont know if havig it on my arm will bother me when im all grown up and have to be presentable in a professional manner.

i guess i was hoping for professional people with ink to answer. thanks Mrs.Z

Rule 1 of getting a tat: Never get one that you don't want for the rest of your life.

Rule 2: Never get one in a place that you can't hide from your grandmother or a judge.

And you HAVE gotten answers from professionals with ink work. You just didn't like those answers.

I can see grammy, but why a judge? Call me naive, but you'd think someone in such a position of power would be able to at least see past something as superficial as ink (depending on what it is, of course: a dude on trial for hate crimes with a hate crime tatoo....well...). Tats are pretty normal.

BTW, what's your tat reno? "Hillary Forever"? Wink


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wanderlustmd wrote:
I can see grammy, but why a judge? Call me naive, but you'd think someone in such a position of power would be able to at least see past something as superficial as ink (depending on what it is, of course: a dude on trial for hate crimes with a hate crime tatoo....well...). Tats are pretty normal.

I'm guessing you have never been unfortunate enough to have to go to court. Wink


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My sister-in-law has a remembrance tattoo, for her first-born child who was premature and alive outside her womb for only a few days before she and my brother had to make the decision to take him off life support. Poor little Guage,RIP.

Her tattoo is quite large, a crying angel surrounded by lilies. She has it high on her inner thigh.


Not to get too far off topic, and I truly mean no disrespect to you or your family, but this just seems like a poor, poor place to put a tatto in remberance of a deceased child. Every time your brother goes to have sex with his wife, he's going to see this reminder of his loss. I don't think I could do it, at least with the lights on anyway.

Back on topic, I'm a lawyer with no ink. In any decent sized firm, you're going to have old school partners that you'll have to prove your abilities too. A lot of them will be looking upon you with greater scrutiny because you're a woman (sorry, I don't make the rules, but it is what it is). Going into this with a visable tatto is going to make your battle much more difficult. They just won't take you seriously. If you plan on being in this situation, get the tat somewhere you can hide it when you're in the office.


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wjca wrote:
Not to get too far off topic, and I truly mean no disrespect to you or your family, but this just seems like a poor, poor place to put a tatto in remberance of a deceased child. Every time your brother goes to have sex with his wife, he's going to see this reminder of his loss. I don't think I could do it, at least with the lights on anyway.

Hmmmm...maybe that's why they haven't had any more children.... Just kidding(they have two boys). My brother and she decided on the tattoo/placement together. My brother was unbelievable crushed by the loss, and I will never forget the look of agony on his face as he carried that tiny casket from the church to the burial ground next door. The location has specific meaning, but I can see your point, for sure.


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Back on topic.... A lot of them will be looking upon you with greater scrutiny because you're a woman (sorry, I don't make the rules, but it is what it is).
I had wanted to mention the "female" issue too, but....I'm glad someone in the know came out and stated it.


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kantkatchme wrote:
have you had to go to court? ive seen one of yours.. i like it..
i just dont know if havig it on my arm will bother me when im all grown up and have to be presentable in a professional manner.

i guess i was hoping for professional people with ink to answer. thanks Mrs.Z

I am "professional people." I am a scientist. So, no, I don't go to court.

Honestly, I would say it sounds like a bad idea. if you are dead set on it, get it in black and white, no color ink. this is simply because (as a general rule, and of course there are exceptions) but as a general rule the more colorful the tat, the trashier it looks. color is $$$ to get right.

another thought is: do you have really nice arms? if you don't, if you have any flab under your arms at all.... you would definitely not be doing yourself a favor with a tat on your bicep. something to think about.

furthermore, how did your friend die? not to put too fine a point on it, but if they died, say, drunk driving, that might be kind of an awkward story to have to tell to everyone you meet for the rest of your life. do think about that.


[I have a black band on my finger (engagement, soon to be joined by a second for the wedding) and an x-ray of DNA on my inner forearm.]


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Dose anyone else find it a bit ironic that clausti is giving tattoo advice? I mean she did get a tattoo to symbolize a lifelong commitment in an area that will only last 6-14 months? Crazy

Sorry clausti I just had to! Tongue

Seriously though, cllusti and few others have given some good advice I hope you take it and get a great tattoo that won’t give you issues with your job.


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You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.


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You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.

bingo.


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Excluding your arms(18% body surface), Head(another 9)and lower legs(another 18%), you still have 55% of your body. Go to town on that.


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chadnsc wrote:
Dose anyone else find it a bit ironic that clausti is giving tattoo advice? I mean she did get a tattoo to symbolize a lifelong commitment in an area that will only last 6-14 months? Crazy


crazy me, getting a tat that is always there to symbolize commitment, instead of a ring you take off all the time and can lose.

Tongue


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caughtinside wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.

bingo.

True. I was lucky enough to get a job with a big national firm who couldn't care less if my tats are showing, but they are also tasteful, and can be covered up by wearing a collared shirt and pants for client meetings, etc. I think firms in less conservative markets are less likely to care so long as they can be covered up when need be.


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Mrs_Zeke wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.

bingo.

True. I was lucky enough to get a job with a big national firm who couldn't care less if my tats are showing, but they are also tasteful, and can be covered up by wearing a collared shirt and pants for client meetings, etc. I think firms in less conservative markets are less likely to care so long as they can be covered up when need be.

Mrs. Zeke frequently has the nightmare that she's at client meeting and not wearing pantz.


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imnotclever wrote:
Mrs_Zeke wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.

bingo.

True. I was lucky enough to get a job with a big national firm who couldn't care less if my tats are showing, but they are also tasteful, and can be covered up by wearing a collared shirt and pants for client meetings, etc. I think firms in less conservative markets are less likely to care so long as they can be covered up when need be.

Mrs. Zeke frequently has the nightmare that she's at client meeting and not wearing pantz.

I think you are mistaking your dreams for mine ...

I meant pants....as opposed to a skirt.


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Mrs_Zeke wrote:
imnotclever wrote:
Mrs_Zeke wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
erisspirit wrote:
You might be able to find law firms that don't mind a tat being visible, and have a great career, but it is also very likely that unless you are willing to wear long sleeves the rest of your life, you will be closing some doors on yourself by getting a visible tattoo. As a lawyer you will be representing people. It is very likely that some firms won't wan t someone representing them w/ tattoos, and some clients who won't want to be represented by a tatted up person because their personal view is it is unprofessional.

I unless your willing to potentially sacrifice some opportunities I would say get it in a non visible spot or accept long sleeves in your future.

bingo.

True. I was lucky enough to get a job with a big national firm who couldn't care less if my tats are showing, but they are also tasteful, and can be covered up by wearing a collared shirt and pants for client meetings, etc. I think firms in less conservative markets are less likely to care so long as they can be covered up when need be.

Mrs. Zeke frequently has the nightmare that she's at client meeting and not wearing pantz.

I think you are mistaking your dreams for mine ...

I meant pants....as opposed to a skirt.

A friend of mine was just telling me last weekend how he has those dreams sometimes.


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I mean she did get a tattoo to symbolize a lifelong commitment in an area that will only last 6-14 months?

I don't understand what this poster meant
in an area that will only last 6-14 months... What do you mean?


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chadnsc wrote:
I mean she did get a tattoo to symbolize a lifelong commitment in an area that will only last 6-14 months?

I don't understand what this poster meant
in an area that will only last 6-14 months... What do you mean?

marriage isn't going to last

you missed the joke again

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