|
mainline
Oct 24, 2002, 3:47 AM
Post #1 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 30, 2002
Posts: 161
|
I have noticed several photos in the climbing mags of alpine climbers with a hammer on each tool as opposed to one hammer and one adze. Personally I find the adze to be very useful. Does anyone know why one might choose to have two hammers?
|
|
|
|
|
maddie
Oct 24, 2002, 4:07 AM
Post #2 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 18, 2002
Posts: 197
|
In case your clumsy and you drop one?
i've managed to drop a bolt plate before..
|
|
|
|
|
punk
Oct 24, 2002, 1:38 PM
Post #3 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 28, 2002
Posts: 1442
|
As I know and experienced the two hammers are for u to be able to hammer pitons in either hand the reason for one adz and hammer it is in Alpine environment to chop ledges, steps and Ballard
in pure waterfall ice there is no real need for Adz having 2 hammer is more practical
|
|
|
|
|
jeffe
Oct 24, 2002, 1:47 PM
Post #4 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 24, 2001
Posts: 125
|
If you pop a tool, a hammer in the face is a bit more forgiving than an adze. Most times you can get enough ice out of the way with a hammer to make a good screw placement.
|
|
|
|
|
tradguy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:02 PM
Post #5 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 22, 2002
Posts: 526
|
Punk nailed it on the head. (yes, pun intended)
One other benefit of the hammer.... if you have to climb any mixed terrain, or just a small section of vertical rock, the hammer comes in quite handy for slotting and camming in cracks (most high-end tools are designed with this feature in mind), whereas the adze kind of sucks for this.
|
|
|
|
|
jeffe
Oct 24, 2002, 2:22 PM
Post #6 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 24, 2001
Posts: 125
|
mtngeo,
I double dog dare you to put your tongue on your adze
|
|
|
|
|
coclimber26
Nov 2, 2002, 3:30 AM
Post #7 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 8, 2002
Posts: 928
|
I would think that if the route were bullet ice without alot of snow on top 2 hammers would be of more use. On strenuous climbs It may be easier to pound with your off hand..
|
|
|
|
|
takeit4granite
Nov 2, 2002, 10:17 PM
Post #8 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 31, 2002
Posts: 93
|
I use two hammers almost all the time now!
Mixed climbing in an area of mostly granite you get lots of oppertunity to slot your hammer head like a nut in a crack in order to make a move. Two hammers = two moves.
In addition to the risk of an adze in the face lots of people found better swing characteristics in hammer tools.
|
|
|
|
|
brutusofwyde
Nov 4, 2002, 12:21 AM
Post #9 of 9
(4240 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 3, 2002
Posts: 1473
|
I've also converted to two hammers for waterfall ice and mixed. One issue is the adze in the face. The other is, the teeth on the adz of my CFBPs tear my hands to bloody shreds by the end of a long day when I can't draft in someone else's pick placements... cleaning the tool from the ice eats my flesh.
Alpine, one adze tool plus a Molenaar hammer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
