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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:05 PM
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Right on Deirdre!!!!!!!
Nothing better than a supportive mate... I'm so supportive I'm trying to convince my sig other to climbing with the girls in Mexico this xmas!
IMO poor little AStone wasn't held much by his mom when he was a baby... seems to have a major problem with large women...
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:11 PM
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I've concluded that it is a waste of time to point out the fact that you're a total pr*ck!!!!! Here a woman shares her personal, very personal, experience about abuse she suffered and all you have to say is... "Why doesn't everyone be honest about what they want? This way we can prevent the pathological retention of angst that leads to abusive relationships." I'd say her ex was pretty honest... he honestly wanted to degrade and humiliate her. Something you seem to enjoy partaking in yourself.
God I hope we really meet some day...
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gunkjunkie
Oct 24, 2002, 2:21 PM
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Astone-
I am afraid that in this case the issue wasn't honesty - my ex-husband was living out the abusive environment in which he grew up.
Your friend should get out of the marriage, pay support and see his children. He would be better off, his wife would be better off and the children wouldn't be living in an atmosphere of veiled hostility and nasty remarks which might lead them to acting the same way in their own relationships.
Deirdre
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astone
Oct 24, 2002, 2:25 PM
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Where has all the violence come from?
Come on pharmboy, we are trying for a civilization here.
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:35 PM
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Look up the word "civilization" Andy... I think you may have it confused with another word.
In a "civilized" world people wouldn't just go around beating and abusing their spouses... and others wouldn't go around calling people fat, with the theory that they are saving that person's life! If anyone is being uncivilized it is you.
I have a problem with YOU... not with some other generalized group of people. I'm voicing my opinion about YOU, based upon what YOU have shared here. The fact that I wish for an opportunity to confront you face to face... well, again, while it is "uncivilized" it would certainly make me feel better.
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astone
Oct 24, 2002, 2:36 PM
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Neanderthal!
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:40 PM
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Dude... that's weak! You can do better than that...
I guess since we've digressed into simple name calling we should just call it quits and stop wasting everyone's time. You don't like me... I don't like you.
I'll even give ya the last word... you're right I am a neanderwhateva!
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astone
Oct 24, 2002, 2:49 PM
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pharmboy:
"Andy this is not a threat... but I want you to remember something.... "what comes around goes around." I don't know who coined the phrase first, but it fits.
I'll see ya around sometime."
Hmmm...
This pm sounds a little contradictory. Who let this sociopath onto this site?
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:55 PM
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Read that pm in the way it was written, literally....
"what comes around goes around" Translation= you're an opinionated a$$hole who hates "fat" people. When it comes around you'll be the one tipping the scales!
"see ya around" ... Translation= It's a small world, surely someday we'll be at the same crag at same time. You'll recognize me, I'm the dude with the large cranium and covered in hair, atypical of my neaderthal routes!
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astone
Oct 24, 2002, 2:57 PM
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Dude is so pissed he's practically sputtering. Was that last post supposed to be legible?
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 2:59 PM
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"Who let this sociopath onto this site?"
Hooray Andy... now that's a bit better!
A sociopathic neaderthal... who would've thought!
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This post is a little late, for the comment I am responding to, but I just have to. Astone, you are very quick to judge and be insensitive towards people who are overweight, but you were a male nurse? Come on. You are a climbing contradiction.
-spider
Ps. For anyone who is either big or a male nurse, no harm intended.
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pharmboy
Oct 24, 2002, 3:13 PM
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"Man, you have to be pretty careful with your words on these forums!"
Anyone can say what they want... just don't expect to act like a weenie and not get flamed. Of all the people posting I'm the only one that has made any actual threatening remarks... and while I am sorry for making them I will not rescind my opinion that Andy's a major dick!
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msecoda
Oct 24, 2002, 3:16 PM
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Quote:
"Save a fatso, tell him he is fat!"
Hey Astone,
how about save a fatso, help him get fit!
Are you so self absorbed that you think fat people need to hear from you that they are fat??? A guy who is 5'8 - 350 lbs knows he is fat, there is no hiding it. If you care, don't point out his problem, pose a solution. In nursing for 10 yrs, so I know you know about nutrition and fitness. Help the brother out give him info to help him along the way.
As far as heavy people climbing. I say the more the merrier. If you want to climb, then climb.
climb on!
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theamish
Oct 24, 2002, 4:10 PM
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C'mon folks, cut Astone a little slack, he obviously is quite the prodigy. By his admission, he is 27 years of age, he's been a nurse for ten of those years. I don't know if he's an RN or LPN but the lesser should require approximately 2 years of schooling which would have made him approximately 15 years of age when he entered the field. with this knowledge how can you question his validity on his theories of civilization. It would be like saying Einstein misunderstood the theory of relativity.
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tinyball
Oct 24, 2002, 5:20 PM
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Congrats on honemaster mtngeo
Kumbaya...
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mugnyte
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I'm all for help the fat get thin, but comon people - AMERICA IS 80% OVERWEIGHT.
How much sympathy can you dole out, when so many endemic habits of living in the US contribute to being Jabba the Hut?
TV, bike-unfriendly roads, Fast Food, Malls, Quick-Fix Diets, etc. This country BLOWS when it comes to encouraging people to live a healthy lifestyle.
I give up! I'm not gonna point and scold anyone - for sure - but people CHOOSE THEIR LFIESTYLE. Let the overweight be punished by their own health problems, which is sad and tough enough.
But lets give up all this sympathy for bad health, folks. If more people cared, our society would change a bit.
Fat people doing active things (like climbing)? I APPLAUD THEM. "welcome to the club - what took you so long?"
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Oct 24, 2002, 8:29 PM
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"Maybe you have to react with physical rage against someone you've never met because you lack the intellect to concoct a clever retort. "
Huh hu uh. Astone you said concoct. HUH UH HUH HU
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Hey folks.....no one can help fat people they must help themselves. so stop all this sympathetic shit.....i was once fat and i did not blame anyone but myself. if you can look at yourself and are being happy being obese, than right on. if you want to change your life and feel better you must get off your butt and do it. no one is forcing fat people sit on their asses and stuff their face and say I can't, i can't, i can't. Well you CAN if you want to. I understand that being overweight is also a side effect of abuse.....been there, too.
i think that maybe he was concerned about this guy and it can across wrong. believe me i have been concerned about people at the gym who are obese and are working to hard...you can hurt yourself, ya know.
So give the guy a break and stop feeling so bad for fat people remember they had everything to do with getting that way in the first place.
So go flame me i don't care.
~eryn
"REFORMED FAT CHICK"
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Go Eryn!
And I just have to throw in something I saw in another thread awhile back...
Yes, there he is, our very own astone... a loving RN. It gets better! Stick around folks, the 9pm astone show is completely different from the 7pm show! And full of new wonderful verbage - you don't want to miss it!
And to think I was actually bothering to discuss the existance of God earlier...
proof he doesn't exist is right here.
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Wow.....you really need to pull your head out of your can!!! and take a look around man. granted i have been blessed with a good climbing physique but my climbing partner has not..he's about 5'8" 215 with short arms and legs..and he can climg harder than me. jus because someone is fat you should not put him/her down...i have run ito a lot of people who may "appear" oout of shape, but are actually really good climbers..i leave you with a bit of advice my parents gave me when i was 3...unless you have something nice to say don't say it at all...and don't waste my time or other people's time by putting this ignorant junk on this web site
shame on you
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lemurboy
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Dude, everyone should be allowed to climb.
its fun, and if is was having fun, then its all cool
there was this guy that weighed in at nearly 400lbs that came to our gym, he was a wrestler.
any way we had to make a 5 point anchor system for him including a ground bolted anchor, with two heavy bag punching bags filled with H2O....when he fell, the wall shook so hard it knocked the guy climbing on the other side off!
it was so funny!!!!!
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I've seen so many people go from struggling, overweight gym climbers to nimble, muscular physiques who still struggled up the wall (granted, they were harder walls). I know I was not in perfect shape when I started climbing, but the sport inspired me to get in shape and even quit smoking cigarettes! Encourage him!
-Erica
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I don't really see how encouraging a person to lose weight and encouraging a person to climb are necessarily mutually exclusive. It would seem to me that they would actually compliment each other.
Also, note that I use the word encourage. If you do it in a positive way I don't see it as necessarily being rude or mean spirited. What I think is mean is to just look the other way or to keep on supporting a person with any kind of self destructive habit.
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I think it's cool that he's out there giving it a shot. In fact, send him down to my bike shop, and I'll get him on a bike, too.
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