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whiskeybullets
Feb 20, 2008, 4:11 AM
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Could someone provide a detailed description and/or photos of a resting fifi properly slung? Pictures of both the front and back side of the fifi would be awesome.
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rickoldskool
Feb 20, 2008, 4:48 AM
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Dude/Dudette, there is a pic right here in the photo gallery. By the way what the hell is a "resting fifi". I assume your referring to an adjustable fifi, as opposed to a standard fifi.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...table_Fifi_9683.html
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whiskeybullets
Feb 20, 2008, 2:34 PM
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A resting fifi and adjustable fifi are the same thing. Hence the backslash in the thread title. The official name of the product, as sold by Kong, is the resting fifi. More people refer to it as an adjustable fifi, but technically, the product is a resting fifi.
The picture provided doesn't show the back side of the fifi, but is clearer than photos I have seen on mountainproject. Does the cord coming from the left side of the photo insert through the top oblong hole first, then through the circular hole, and then back through the bottom of the oblong hole? See why a picture of both the back side and front side would help?
Has anyone seen and product literature from Kong on this device? I couldn't find any on the web site, but someone who is more familiar with European terminology may have had better success in the past.
Thanks for the link though, it leads me in the right direction.
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pbcowboy77
Feb 22, 2008, 5:54 AM
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you can get them here...
http://www.libertymountain.com/catalog.php?type=category&id=8714
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stymingersfink
Feb 23, 2008, 12:29 AM
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whiskeybullets wrote: A resting fifi and adjustable fifi are the same thing. Hence the backslash in the thread title. The official name of the product, as sold by Kong, is the resting fifi. More people refer to it as an adjustable fifi, but technically, the product is a resting fifi. The picture provided doesn't show the back side of the fifi, but is clearer than photos I have seen on mountainproject. Does the cord coming from the left side of the photo insert through the top oblong hole first, then through the circular hole, and then back through the bottom of the oblong hole? See why a picture of both the back side and front side would help? Has anyone seen and product literature from Kong on this device? I couldn't find any on the web site, but someone who is more familiar with European terminology may have had better success in the past. Thanks for the link though, it leads me in the right direction.
They are handy, in that at full extension (as far as your arm will reach) they will allow you to weight the next piece from your bottom step if you want, even holding up to repeated 1/2-power bounce-testing.
On traverses, it's easy to hang the hook on the next piece and gently swing your weight onto it, also from down low in your ladders.
An indispensable piece of gear, IMHO. Carry an extra length of the 6mm if you're on a wall, just in case.
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marde
Feb 23, 2008, 9:29 AM
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stymingersfink wrote: ... aside from the occasional slip-up when your cord starts to wear (easily corrected mid-pitch, only mildly annoying)...
I used an adjustable fifi and I can't say the occasional slip up is no problem, at least when you're topstepping and fully tension that fifi upwards.
No fun at all, and no easy correction while trying to place the next piece of gear.
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stymingersfink
Feb 23, 2008, 2:20 PM
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marde wrote: stymingersfink wrote: ... aside from the occasional slip-up when your cord starts to wear (easily corrected mid-pitch, only mildly annoying)... I used an adjustable fifi and I can't say the occasional slip up is no problem, at least when you're topstepping and fully tension that fifi upwards. No fun at all, and no easy correction while trying to place the next piece of gear.
I don't advocate using it to top-step with either, else it won't be available for you to hook that next piece with, step down in your ladders where it's not so tenuous and begin the earnest testing process from a relatively safer place. When top-stepping I'll use my regular BD fifi, which is girth-hitched of a sort to my tie-in points.
then again, I'm mildly slow. ^^that might explain why^^
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the_climber
Feb 25, 2008, 4:56 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: When top-stepping I'll use my regular BD fifi, which is girth-hitched of a sort to my tie-in points.
I'd be interested to see if you use the same "girth-hitched of a sort" as I do. Maybe I'll have to take a pic for comparison.
stymingersfink wrote: then again, I'm mildly slow. ^^that might explain why^^
*Insert slow children joke here*
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unrooted
Feb 25, 2008, 5:40 PM
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2 fifi's? I use a sport draw and an adjustable, I like it because I can't top step with a regular fifi, it is too short (i'm 6'4").
I bought my Kong Adjustable Fifi in the gear store of Yosemite, they always had em when I was living there.
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stymingersfink
Feb 26, 2008, 12:27 AM
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the_climber wrote: stymingersfink wrote: When top-stepping I'll use my regular BD fifi, which is girth-hitched of a sort to my tie-in points. I'd be interested to see if you use the same "girth-hitched of a sort" as I do. Maybe I'll have to take a pic for comparison. stymingersfink wrote: then again, I'm mildly slow. ^^that might explain why^^ *Incert slow children joke here*
g-hitched through my tie-in points, and shortened as much as necessary, cause I like that puppy SHORT!
if it's too short for as high as I need to step, i can hook it through a loop in my daisy (clipped to my ladders and the piece I'm standing on) for just the right adjustment. Not so dangly that it catches on EVERYTHING at the worst possible time, only half of everything.
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wanderlustmd
Feb 26, 2008, 4:31 PM
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the_climber wrote: stymingersfink wrote: When top-stepping I'll use my regular BD fifi, which is girth-hitched of a sort to my tie-in points. I'd be interested to see if you use the same "girth-hitched of a sort" as I do. Maybe I'll have to take a pic for comparison. stymingersfink wrote: then again, I'm mildly slow. ^^that might explain why^^ * Incert slow children joke here*
Oh, the ironing.
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the_climber
Feb 26, 2008, 4:56 PM
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wanderlustmd wrote: the_climber wrote: stymingersfink wrote: When top-stepping I'll use my regular BD fifi, which is girth-hitched of a sort to my tie-in points. I'd be interested to see if you use the same "girth-hitched of a sort" as I do. Maybe I'll have to take a pic for comparison. stymingersfink wrote: then again, I'm mildly slow. ^^that might explain why^^ * Insert slow children joke here* Oh, the ironing.
Picky picky picky...
Do I loose 5%
or, is there mercy from the spelling police? Perhaps a written warning...
Wait a second... it's the net, since when did it count for marks.
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jeremy11
Apr 21, 2008, 1:47 AM
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how fast and easy is the kong adjustable fifi to extend?
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stymingersfink
Apr 21, 2008, 5:35 PM
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jeremy11 wrote: how fast and easy is the kong adjustable fifi to extend?
two things I may have already mentioned:
manufacturer recommends 7mm "slippery" cord. I have found the 6mm Mammut accessory cord to work best.
replace the cord when it gets too worn to slide through the fifi easily.
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whiskeybullets
Apr 21, 2008, 5:42 PM
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Things i've noticed about the resting fifi since I started using one:
On the easy aid that I'm doing C1/C2 it's useless if you also have adjustable daisys.
When I use it to top step when using traditional daisies the cord has a tendency to sometimes pop when weighted causing a fast extension of the fifi length until the big stopper knot in the end catches me. This is really annoying. Some have suggested tying a back-up knot at the appropriate length to avoid this, but I have found this to be stupidly time consuming.
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