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lilred
Oct 25, 2002, 9:25 PM
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Quote:Siegel studied ginseng abuse syndrome in 133 persons using ginseng regularly for at least one month. Some subjects used Siberian ginseng; it was not possible to isolate these cases from those using Panax ginseng. Ginseng doses varied from 8 to 10 g three times a day for capsules; 0.5 to 3 g twice a day for roots, 1 to 2 g three times a day for ground powders, and 2.5 to 5 ml a day for extracts. Moderation man...everything in moderation! Too much of anything is generally a bad thing...sleep included...thanks headcrack, I'll give it a whirl!
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rocknpowda
Oct 25, 2002, 10:05 PM
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Why not just try a swift kick in the pants.
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galt
Oct 25, 2002, 10:20 PM
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Guys Mikedano is right. You really need to sleep more, eat regularly (good food), drink plenty of water, and do pleanty of crack.
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tylerphillips
Oct 25, 2002, 10:20 PM
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Screw all that new age fru fru shit. Drink 2 pabst before your send (fast) and that will put you in that relaxed, fear little stage.
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addiroids
Oct 25, 2002, 10:31 PM
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Xenadrine. 1.5 normal dose. It sure wakes me up at 4am when I drive to work (construction). Besides that, Lilred, you have it down with the Guinness. It's a "Meal In A Can" and better tasting than Myoplex. TRADitionally yours, Cali Dirtbag Fume la buen heriba.
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stonejunkie
Oct 25, 2002, 10:36 PM
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I have read that Yerba Matte contains caffine. I know everyone says it doesn't, but when you look into scientific studies, they report caffine. Just passing it along.
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rocknalaska
Oct 25, 2002, 11:00 PM
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Headcrak- read into the studies and use a little more thought of your own. If you read the entire article, then I'm sure you also saw the part that states: "Dr. Valtin emphasizes that these conclusions apply to healthy adults in a temperate climate, leading a largely sedentary existence." While the Healthy and temperate portions apply, I would guess that most climbers would not be considered sedentary. At least none that I know. I'm not disagreeing with either you or the Doctor, just pointing out that an individuals situation changes perspective drastically. Personally I find that I recover and heal faster if I am well hydrated. I don't judge by how much I drink, more by personal symptoms such as dry mouth, urine, etc. Also as to the water intoxication portion, I would like to see more info on what has happened and how much it takes for this to happen. Can 1 gallon do this or does it take 3? Just a skeptic I guess....
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moabbeth
Oct 25, 2002, 11:42 PM
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Yay lil'red, I thought I was the only one who valued at least 8-9 hours of sleep a night. Anything over 10 makes me drowsy but anything under 8 is too little. Sleep is good.
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lox
Oct 26, 2002, 3:00 AM
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I think that the amount needed to induce water poisoning depends on the individual's kidney and activity level. Either way, 64 ounces is 8x8 glasses of water. That's a hlaf gallon. You shouldn't ever really be doubling that. You get a lot of water from food...
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ktwo
Oct 26, 2002, 11:16 PM
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Drink till you piss clear. That is my theory anyway, and it has gotten me through 3 years of cross country without trouble. Also, the one thing that you have to worry about drinking too much water is that you can through your mineral levels out of balance. Take marathoners for example: If they drink only water, their cells get too much water and not enough electorlytes, potassium, etc. so they get "water poisoning". As far as I know, this can only happen in excessive situations, and not from average excersise.
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lilred
Oct 28, 2002, 9:35 PM
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I am an athlete...I run everymorning, do yoga Monday and Fridays, and I climb Tues and Thurs...I easilly sweat half of what I drink in a day...I NEED a gallon on those days I'm sweating alot (and I do sweat ALOT)...when I'm chilling, and taking a day off, there is no way in HELL I can drink a gallon... I'm with ya ktwo...drink till yer pee's clear...thats my rule of thumb too...
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bluesky
Oct 28, 2002, 9:49 PM
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I think that all these rules of thumb and scientific reports can all be twisted to support one side or another. Luckily most of the peoples who climb fervently are more likely to have a grasp on body awareness than the typical 'sedentary' american. I think each of us can listen to our body and give it what it needs - you can feel it. For me this means I feel hella good when I've worked out, worked my brain, worked my spirit, eaten well and often, drank fluids - mostly water in my case - till I pee clear and slept until I wake up.
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