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retro
Apr 5, 2008, 12:25 AM
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How does one attach an Alp Axe to the 60L? Does it need to be strapped to the side with the compression straps?
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dps
Apr 5, 2008, 12:33 AM
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You just use the tool attachments...not sure why it would be any different?
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retro
Apr 5, 2008, 1:06 AM
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Sorry...should have been more specific.
Let's say your technical tools are there? Some packs (that will go unmentioned ) have a separate tool loop (oten in the center of the pack) in which to attach the alp Axe.
Looks like one would just have to lash it to the side? I don't see any other attachment point for this from the pics.
Chris
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dps
Apr 5, 2008, 2:49 AM
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You can fit two tools into one of the tool holsters usually. This may vary based on what tools. I've done it before and it worked fine.
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retro
Apr 5, 2008, 3:02 AM
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OK...that would work I suppose. Perfect!
Thanks 
Chris
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justinboening
Apr 6, 2008, 5:39 AM
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Also, you could slip the axe up through the haul loop, twist the loop a few times for security's sake, and lash the shaft n the pack's center. Voila, an upside down traditional attachment.
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retro
Apr 6, 2008, 7:11 PM
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justinboening wrote: Also, you could slip the axe up through the haul loop, twist the loop a few times for security's sake, and lash the shaft n the pack's center. Voila, an upside down traditional attachment.
Dude!
Great idea! It may interfere with the crampons, but then again...it might not!?!? I like that idea though...
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retro
Apr 10, 2008, 9:04 PM
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Just ordered the Cilo 60L!!! Can't wait to get it out there and beat on it a bit!!!
Thanks to all who responded to my post
Chris
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sungam
Apr 15, 2008, 7:45 PM
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one more thing - carrying three tools and crampons. If your crampons are on, you'll have at least one tool out, right? A more or less straight shafted axe can slide into the side of the crampon pouch, head up. a long alp tool would dangle a bit, but whatever.
Once you switch to techie tools, just shove the alp tool in the holster. done.
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retro
Apr 17, 2008, 2:15 AM
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I am a little confused about how much the Cilogear 60L weighs? 4.5 lbs? Does that sound about right? I had heard that it weighed less, but 1920 grams is roughly 4 and a half pounds. Does that sound about right?
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justinboening
Apr 17, 2008, 2:48 AM
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well Retro, 1920 grams is actually a little less than 4.25 pounds, but that total number is of little importance. Firstly, the straps weigh a pound by themselves. If you want to shed some weight, don't use 'em; lord knows that I don't. That brings the weight down to 3.25 pounds. Also, with the internal compression strap, that pack'll still carry well. If you're going light, however, than you're not going to need the frame (I say this knowing how well the pack carries using only the foam pad that Graham sends you--the thing is stiffer than most frames by itself). Leave the frame and stay behind, and you'll be carrying 2.75 pounds of pack. Now that's pretty damn light for a 60L pack, if you ask me. On the other hand, it's too heavy for my liking. I leave the lid and stiff foam pad behind, too, which leaves less than 2 pounds on my back. Bottom line is if you need it to be light, it'll be light. If you need it to carry a bolt gun and forty bolts and hangers, then cool, it'll do that, too, and do it well. Be happy with your purchase. You made the right choice.
(This post was edited by justinboening on Apr 17, 2008, 3:37 PM)
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dps
Apr 17, 2008, 6:29 AM
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What Justin said above with respect to weights is about what I measure with my Cilogear 60L V2 as well.
The thing to keep in mind is that comparable packs have no compression straps and/or framsheet, and weigh more! So if you want to use a couple straps, then your Cilogear will be the same weight as other packs WITH the framesheet/metal stay.
To reiterate, you already have a framesheet, metal stay, and a couple straps for the same weight as other "alpine" packs!!!
Honestly, it is the most versatile and well made pack out there, be happy with your purchase.
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retro
Apr 17, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Thanks guys. No question that this is a light pack (way lighter than most), just curious what the breakdown was and was talking with a friend of mine who thought that it was 2.5 lbs with everything and that didn't sound right??
The pack should be here by Saturday if it got sent out last night. I hope to take it rock climbing on Saturday and then into Huntington;s on Monday if the weather holds to get in one more ice climb before calling it a season!!
Thanks for the info!
Chris
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