y guess would be that, even though you're consuming plenty of water, you're still coming up short on things like electrolytes, sodium and potassium. Water doesn't help much if you're body doesn't have the things it needs to use water. Try stuff like Camelbak Elixir or Nuun tablets, Gu, Cliffshots, and all of that junk. I have good luck with the Elixir tabs, and I think they taste the best.

Maybe one of the poll options should be: I forget to stretch....

I also climbed much weaker than usual. I would like to blame it on the heat :)

There is almost no research on hydration and performance...or recovery issues like muscle soreness.

There is almost no research on hydration and performance...

hey your cute---but thats a joke right? google HYDRATION PERFORMANCE MUSCLE SORENESS and you only get 21,000 links, reports and related flotsam---

Not so sure that's true. For a review, see, for instance, ACSM consensus statement.

Using statismics, math, and numberology, I have identified the following pattern. I call my theory the
"RC. com fitness advice thread theory."

1. person a asks question about training or recovery.
2. person b gives a preliminary answer.
3. person c says that is only anecdotal.
4. person d or person b posts evidence from a study or two.
5. person c says that is just one or two studies, of one motion.
6. arguing continues until persons b and d say "well, these studies are very specific, but a study of exactly what we want here is impossible."
7. person e says that he drinks sporty goo, does pullups, and climbs 5.11f
8. person b has the audacity to suggest that doing an exercise that might contribute to general fitness is probably ok.
9. person b gets flamed for thinking that things other than climbing (like health) matter.
9. person a fucks off to have a brew, deciding he was probably right about whatever his original assumption was. (In this case, I predict person a will decide to have more water, eat some sporty goos and look for shady climbs next time it's hot at the crag.)

person l posts hasty generalization rather than bother to think about the issue

person j killfiles person l

Jay

When I get the most sore is when I've had a very hard day, something that will make me tired for a long time, then two days later I go climbing again.

I feel fine but it's not enough time to recover.

Dehydration just makes me weak, no more sore.

There is almost no research on hydration and performance...or recovery issues like muscle soreness. But I have some preliminary research stuff that was covered on this topic at a recent sports training conference I went to, so I will look at it again and post about it later.

Using statismics, math, and numberology, I have identified the following pattern. I call my theory the
"RC. com fitness advice thread theory."

1. person a asks question about training or recovery.
2. person b gives a preliminary answer.
3. person c says that is only anecdotal.
4. person d or person b posts evidence from a study or two.
5. person c says that is just one or two studies, of one motion.
6. arguing continues until persons b and d say "well, these studies are very specific, but a study of exactly what we want here is impossible."
7. person e says that he drinks sporty goo, does pullups, and climbs 5.11f
8. person b has the audacity to suggest that doing an exercise that might contribute to general fitness is probably ok.
9. person b gets flamed for thinking that things other than climbing (like health) matter.
9. person a fucks off to have a brew, deciding he was probably right about whatever his original assumption was. (In this case, I predict person a will decide to have more water, eat some sporty goos and look for shady climbs next time it's hot at the crag.)