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r0cker
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I am looking to buy my first rope! I will use it mainly for Top Roping and some Sport climbing. I am curious as to what people think would be a good rope for me?
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pmoff
Jun 10, 2008, 11:27 PM
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I would advise buying a name brand, even if it cost a few bucks more. I have owned a Bluewater, Sterling, PMI and Mammut. All great dynamic ropes, last a long time and never had a problem. One of my friends bought an Edelweiss, and it was trashed after one big wall. I prefer 60m (200 feet) x between 10mm and 10.5mm diameter.
Checkout www.REI.com or www.gearexpress.com or local shop or local climbing gym.
Hope this helps.
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r0cker wrote: I am looking to buy my first rope! I will use it mainly for Top Roping and some Sport climbing. I am curious as to what people think would be a good rope for me?
If you think you are going to progress to leading multipitch climbs within a year or two, I would invest in a bi-pattern rope. It's really worth the extra bucks to know where the middle mark is on your rope. Saves a lot of time and is great for efficient rope handling (also adds to your safety margin).
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stymingersfink
Jun 11, 2008, 2:13 AM
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r0cker wrote: I am looking to buy my first rope! I will use it mainly for Top Roping and some Sport climbing. I am curious as to what people think would be a good rope for me?
i think he's right.
oh, and as for ropes being thrashed after one bigwall? that's pretty much the standard, regardless of brand.
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pmoff
Jun 11, 2008, 3:58 AM
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Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym. My opinion.
Bluewater rope saw two years of continuous climbing including Salathe Wall and few Zion Walls and was still in good shape. The rope was finally retired because we pulled all the stretch out of it. The sheath was still fine though, just a little bit of fuzz. Good rope, that is all I have to say.
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curt
Jun 11, 2008, 5:33 AM
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pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym...
Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway?
Curt
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reno
Jun 11, 2008, 5:41 AM
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r0cker wrote: I am looking to buy my first rope! I will use it mainly for Top Roping and some Sport climbing. I am curious as to what people think would be a good rope for me?
I'll sell you a 10.2 Beal, dry treated, 60 meter, one lead fall, two years old. $100, plus shipping.
Climbed on it day before yesterday. Still trustworthy, especially for your use.
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AlexCV
Jun 11, 2008, 12:50 PM
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curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt
That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss.
(This post was edited by AlexCV on Jun 11, 2008, 12:51 PM)
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clc
Jun 11, 2008, 1:26 PM
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Mammut FLash 10.5mm. Don't worry about duodess or dry treatment. Maxim makes nice ropes for $130 cdn.
Interestingly why can I in Canada buy american made BD or metolious cams for cheaper than in the states. for that matter most gear is less expensive. your $$ is going to crap
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sterlingjim
Jun 11, 2008, 1:42 PM
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AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss.
ZING!
What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it.
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stymingersfink
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sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it.
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curt
Jun 11, 2008, 4:59 PM
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sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it.
Well, I happen to prefer Mammut myself. Anyway, the information on this page is certainly misleading--if Edelweiss did not invent the kernmantle rope:
http://www.highonropes.com/...s-climbing-ropes.htm
Curt
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angry
Jun 11, 2008, 5:17 PM
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Not to kiss anyone's ass here, but.
In the last years, I have owned 4 Edelwiess ropes. A 60m bicolor, 8mm twins, and a 70m. They have always fit my price needs really well.
The bicolor needed retirement after 2 years of use, due mostly to sheath slippage. At 9.9 it looked like and 11mm also, it got supremely fat.
The twins were good, one is still going strong, the other is just a tagline now since I damaged it pretty badly at about 40ft with some crampons. They do look like 9's though.
The 70m looks like 10.5 and barely fits through my belay device anymore. It's rated at 9.6. It is 2 years old and if I can avoid using it this summer will make it though one last creek season this fall.
Now on to my Sterling.
It's a dry core, my friend bought it about 6 years ago 10.2. In that time he used it to TR some. When he joined the peace corps, he decided that it would be too old when he got back so he gave it to me to wreck. It's thinner than either of my Edelweiss singles, even though it's supposedly thicker, is smoother through the device, takes abuse like a champ, doesn't have sheath slippage. In every way I can think of, it is vastly superior to my other ropes.
If I ever manage to end this rope, I'll be looking at nothing but Sterling. The sweetness of the Sterling ropes far outweigh the 30-40 extra bucks you'll pay for one.
Jim, consider your ass kissed.
I'll be in the toolshed if anyone needs me.
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irregularpanda
Jun 11, 2008, 6:03 PM
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Another "first rope" thread...... Ahh the memories, the brands, the loyalty, the shit-talking.
Has anybody tried one of the metolius monster ropes yet? I know they look pretty durable on paper, but would it stack up to a marathon in terms of long life and handling?
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GeneralBenson
Jun 11, 2008, 6:17 PM
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sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it.
Yeah. Ford invented the car, and they suck.
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Bob_Loblaw
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I like ropes that are longer then they are wide. But that's just me.
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jughead
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Beal top gun 10.5mm 60m Job done
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r0cker wrote: I am looking to buy my first rope! I will use it mainly for Top Roping and some Sport climbing. I am curious as to what people think would be a good rope for me?
Congratulations on having the insight to realize that you were likely to be the first beginner in the history of rockclimbing.com to be buying his first rope, to be used mainly for top roping and some sport climbing, and hence saving yourself the trouble of searching the forums for answers to the exact same fucking question.
Jay
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snowboardercolo
Jun 13, 2008, 6:46 PM
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Look for a deal and in truth it doesn't matter much it will last you a couple years and by then if you stick to it you will find good deals on a better rope.
www.bentgate.com is having a climbing sale so you can look there to start. REI has this:
http://www.rei.com/product/735478?cm_re=pageContent*productsNo2*Ropes%20and%20Bags%20Dynamic%20Climbing%20Ropes%20%20%20New%20England%20Equinox%20102mm%20x%2060m%20Dry%20Rope
New England Equinox 10.2mm x 60m Dry Rope
And don't mind Jay he always needs something to bitch about, he was never a noob or asked questions! At least his spray was short this time!
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sterlingjim
Jun 13, 2008, 6:53 PM
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curt wrote: sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it. Well, I happen to prefer Mammut myself. Anyway, the information on this page is certainly misleading--if Edelweiss did not invent the kernmantle rope: http://www.highonropes.com/...s-climbing-ropes.htm Curt
Truthfully I'm not certain who "invented" or "made the first" kernmantle rope but I'll bet the farm that it was not made for climbing and not by Edelweiss. I'm willing to believe Edelweiss was the first to make a kernmantle rope for climbers. The first kernmantle ropes were most probably made for sailing.
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stymingersfink
Jun 14, 2008, 3:42 AM
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sterlingjim wrote: curt wrote: sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it. Well, I happen to prefer Mammut myself. Anyway, the information on this page is certainly misleading--if Edelweiss did not invent the kernmantle rope: http://www.highonropes.com/...s-climbing-ropes.htm Curt Truthfully I'm not certain who "invented" or "made the first" kernmantle rope but I'll bet the farm that it was not made for climbing and not by Edelweiss. I'm willing to believe Edelweiss was the first to make a kernmantle rope for climbers. The first kernmantle ropes were most probably made for sailing.
Makes perfect sense to me there SJ.
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curt
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GeneralBenson wrote: sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it. Yeah. Ford invented the car, and they suck.
Well, as long as everyone is dwelling on details in this thread, Ford certainly did not invent the car.
Curt
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GeneralBenson
Jun 14, 2008, 2:51 PM
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curt wrote: GeneralBenson wrote: sterlingjim wrote: AlexCV wrote: curt wrote: pmoff wrote: Well, Edelweiss is a name brand that is not very good, at least outside the gym... Really. What company invented the kernmantle rope, anyway? Curt That would be Edelrid (EDELMANN & RIDDER)... not Edelweiss. ZING! What does it matter who invented it anyway. Just because they invented it doesn't mean they perfected it. Yeah. Ford invented the car, and they suck. Well, as long as everyone is dwelling on details in this thread, Ford certainly did not invent the car. Curt
Yeah, I guess you're right.
http://www.loc.gov/.../mysteries/auto.html
Well, my point was... um, I like climbing.
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stymingersfink
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PTFTW!
Oh, and the OP can avoid much headache by checking out this rope.
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