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sungam
Jul 4, 2008, 11:46 AM
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Awesome dude. Don't let any I'm-so-goods bomb on you, you're out there having fun, and that is all that matters BTW, ver, ver skilled to make a post about being proud and achieving without being spray-like. Keep it up, before you know it you'll be a thousand feet off the deck hanging on a RP 0.
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northcave
Jul 4, 2008, 11:49 AM
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cheers dude,,,, but,,, "spray like"... come again?
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doz
Jul 4, 2008, 1:46 PM
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He is saying you did a good job not coming across as a total TOOL. So did you build an anchor, lower, jug and clean your line??? Oh the memories!! Keep it up once you get the solo bug you will never want to aid with some one again. Ain’t it great
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TheTeacher
Jul 4, 2008, 3:18 PM
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sungam wrote: Awesome dude. Don't let any I'm-so-goods bomb on you, you're out there having fun, and that is all that matters. Maybe thats why I like soloing so much. No one to show off to, no one to worry about, no one to feel stupid infront of. I hate soloing because of all the work! I've found myself talking to myself (Smegol style) "Get down there and clean the pitch! I lead this thing, now you clean it! I'm not leading till you do!" When I realize its just me, normaly I'd feel embarased, yet its just me on pitch 5 and I'm the only one on the wall on a tuesday. Nice Work with the Solo! Now step it up and configure your haul system. Take a photo of it and post it.
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northcave
Jul 4, 2008, 6:58 PM
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p.s,,,, what do people tend to use instead of just a clove hitch? I've seen things like a soloist, solo aid and grigri being used? Any real life suggestions?
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whiskeykid
Jul 4, 2008, 7:33 PM
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northcave wrote: p.s,,,, what do people tend to use instead of just a clove hitch? I've seen things like a soloist, solo aid and grigri being used? Any real life suggestions? I prefer the gri-gri and backup knot. I use a DMM Belaymaster biner on the gri-gri to reduce the risk of a cross-load during a fall. For a backup I clove hitch a 24" runner to my belay loop and throw a locker on it. Then I tie an overhand knot on a bight about 20' below the gri-gri and clip it to the locker. If for whatever reason the gri-gri doesn't lock up during a fall the knot will stop it. Obviously you have to untie and re-tie the backup knot every 20', but it only takes a few seconds. I've tried the silent partner but not the soloist and solo aid. To my understanding you have to attach the solo aid and the soloist to a chest harness? The silent partner worked well, I use to use it while rigging industrial fall protection, but it's huge! The nice thing about the gri-gri too is that at anytime you can lower out without re-rigging. This is handy as hell while setting up for a pendulum or (ahem) bailing off. Also, you'll see guys who retro-fit the gri-gri with a piece of cable to clip to a chest harness. This holds it upright and ensures that it grabs if you fall upside down. Personally, I'm not keen about drilling holes in equipment and if you use a backup knot you can't go far if the gri-gri doesn't bind. Congrats on the first solo BTW. When I first started solo-aid I was discouraged about how slow it is but now it's how I spend the majority of my climbing time. It's a good feeling topping out on something knowing that you put in every scrap of effort. Don't be discouraged or intimidated by the systems. Take your time and work it all out on the ground, it'll come. Be careful too, there's no one to double check you. And most importantly! Ignore the inevitable "F'ing Noob!" comments that you're sure to get on this forum!!
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quiteatingmysteak
Jul 4, 2008, 8:33 PM
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save a few inches by clipping directly into the wire. Glad you enjoyed it, learning to solo aid was a fun way to spend a month with a finger injury! :D
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jeremy11
Jul 4, 2008, 8:34 PM
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Nice work! Isn't solo aid fun?
TheTeacher wrote: I've found myself talking to myself (Smegol style) "Get down there and clean the pitch! I lead this thing, now you clean it! I'm not leading till you do!" When I realize its just me, normaly I'd feel embarased, yet its just me on pitch 5 and I'm the only one on the wall on a tuesday. Reminds me of that Gollum rock climbing pic a while back... now someone should do a Gollum solo aid climbing pic. anyone else do belay commands with themselves, for a reminder to double check systems?
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northcave
Jul 4, 2008, 9:58 PM
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hmmm yeah you're right,,, i was singing 'she'll be coming round the mountain' in a kind of country western hip hop style. How odd.. i don't sing to myself when driving alone, having a shower or taking a dump.
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moose_droppings
Jul 4, 2008, 11:08 PM
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Welcome to the dark side. Just think of all the places you can go now without digging up a partner. Embrace the freedom. Oh, and;
In reply to: save a few inches by clipping directly into the wire Ditto. It is a journey of inches, gain em every chance you can.
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morse8000
Jul 6, 2008, 4:39 AM
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This is a rhetorical question, hopefully for the benefit of the discussion: Doesn't attaching a modified grigri to your chest harness ensure that the grigri WILL NOT catch an upside down fall? All the more reason to have a back-up knot whichever way you decide to go.
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sungam
Jul 6, 2008, 4:38 PM
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morse8000 wrote: Doesn't attaching a modified grigri to your chest harness ensure that the grigri WILL NOT catch an upside down fall?o. yep. Earlier dude was wrong.
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russwalling
Jul 6, 2008, 4:52 PM
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sungam wrote: morse8000 wrote: Doesn't attaching a modified grigri to your chest harness ensure that the grigri WILL NOT catch an upside down fall?o. yep. Earlier dude was wrong. The attachment to a chest harness is to make the grigri (modified) feed easier while free climbing. The key to the whole deal is the attachment to the chest harness must be able to disengage during a fall, and especially one that is inverted, in order to catch the meatbomb safely. A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good. For aid climbing where there is minimal to no free climbing, a regular grigri used in the normal manner will suit you well.
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whiskeykid
Jul 7, 2008, 2:45 AM
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morse8000 wrote: Doesn't attaching a modified grigri to your chest harness ensure that the grigri WILL NOT catch an upside down fall? Oop, you're right. My bad. The gri-gri modification for soloing is to ease the feed of the rope through the device, not to allow the gri-gri to catch an inverted fall. I stand, once again, corrected...
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sungam
Jul 7, 2008, 1:26 PM
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[quote "A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good./quote] Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold.
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russwalling
Jul 7, 2008, 6:01 PM
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sungam wrote: [quote "A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good./quote] Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say?
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stymingersfink
Jul 7, 2008, 8:40 PM
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russwalling wrote: sungam wrote: russ wrote: A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good. Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say? yes, he has. What were you trying to say there HaggisDonny? edited to fix someone's cheesetits
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sungam
Jul 7, 2008, 10:26 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: russwalling wrote: sungam wrote: russ wrote: A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good. Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say? yes, he has. What were you trying to say there HaggisDonny? edited to fix someone's cheesetits Maybe my rope is too fat, but after 50 feet or so I start getting enough drag to uncrack any amount of velcro (within reason). Can't afford another rope :P
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stymingersfink
Jul 7, 2008, 11:00 PM
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sungam wrote: stymingersfink wrote: russwalling wrote: sungam wrote: russ wrote: A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good. Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say? yes, he has. What were you trying to say there HaggisDonny? edited to fix someone's cheesetits Maybe my rope is too fat, but after 50 feet or so I start getting enough drag to uncrack any amount of velcro (within reason). Can't afford another rope :P yer not doin' somethi' right then. we are talkin' about aid climbing here,right?
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sungam
Jul 8, 2008, 11:19 AM
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nopo, free. this is on TRS, btw.
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sungam
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russwalling wrote: sungam wrote: [quote "A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good./quote] Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say? I guess what I'm trying to say is I forgot it was an aid solo thread, and I started blabbing about TRS for free climbing.
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russwalling
Jul 8, 2008, 5:00 PM
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sungam wrote: russwalling wrote: sungam wrote: [quote "A small velcro strap/loop to keep the grigri attached to the chest harness works pretty good./quote] Try saying that after climbing anything over 50' with the rig. the velcro will never hold. huh? done miles like that. What are you trying to say? I guess what I'm trying to say is I forgot it was an aid solo thread, and I started blabbing about TRS for free climbing. Huh? I guess we just ain't connecting. What is a TRS? And my velcro thing WAS about free climbing. anyway... carry on as I'm fully confused now.
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Tree_wrangler
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In reply to: What is a TRS? My guess is "Top Rope Solo"?
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