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kevinwaldock


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http://www.miltoncanadianchampion.com/news/article/194889

article says he was rapping, anyone out there have any info?? and what of the other 3-4 incidents this year?? thank god i graduated to leading at nemo/kelso sounds like a bad year. but really what do you expect from ontario slimestone??


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kevinwaldock wrote:
...thank god i graduated to leading at nemo/kelso...
I would think you jumped out of the pot and into the fire Wink


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kevinwaldock wrote:
http://www.miltoncanadianchampion.com/news/article/194889
article says he was rapping, anyone out there have any info?? and what of the other 3-4 incidents this year?? thank god i graduated to leading at nemo/kelso sounds like a bad year. but really what do you expect from ontario slimestone??

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kevinwaldock


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ha ha ha that's funny. i actually find nemo quite solid and relatively safe, and have only seen 3-4 other parties there and have been climbing lots there this summer. BTW thanks for yer advice for doing the slab and top secret in a day, that was probably the best climbing day i've ever had.


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granite_grrl may be able to enlighten you on the relative safety of Nemo. Then again, this whole climbing thing is as scary as driving on the 401 on Saturday night.

Pity that Top Secret is no more due to rock fall.


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ya that totally sucks, top secret was awesome. did that rock fall happen this winter? i guess i'm not surprised due to the rock quality!! where on the route did the rock fall happen, was it around the final corner. ya i read what happened there on ground zero just glad that it wasn't serious and recovery when well, i hate hearing about any injuries in this sport, but it makes you think on how many accidents on the escarphment get reported. i guess when climbing in milton the leader must not fall right or is that climbing anywhere in general??


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kevinwaldock wrote:
...did that rock fall happen this winter?...
Apparently yes. That's one of the good things about Ontario rock, it's most likely to succumb to gravity after a freeze/thaw cycle and when nobody (I hope) is around.


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"....when his safety equipment failed..."

Doubtful...


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Aunor wrote:
"....when his safety equipment failed..."

Doubtful...

I hate it when a climbing gear fails to it's job


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majid_sabet wrote:
Aunor wrote:
"....when his safety equipment failed..."

Doubtful...

I hate it when a climbing gear fails to it's job
You mean when the climbing reporters fail to do their job?


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kevinwaldock wrote:
thank god i graduated to leading at nemo/kelso sounds like a bad year.
Every year is a bad year on the escarpment. Why do people keep forgetting that?

Last year that huge block was pulled off on Harliquin onto someone's head. The year before that I fell leading at Nemo and another guy fell at Buffalo, both of us were hurt very badly. And those were just the few major incidents that I'm aware of.

I still climb on the eascarpment. I'm just a lot more careful and speculative of it


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I agree that it's unlikely the climber's gear failed (unless the reporter means that a piece, off of which he was rapp'ing, blew...).
But, if the article is accurate to the extent that the accident happened on rappel, then we can't blame the rock for this one.

Sure, things here can be loose. Sure, the gear can be questionable. Sure, routes can change from one year to the next. All of the above also applies to ice and alpine climbing and it all means we have to climb with those factors in mind. Our sport is an exercise in the management of odds. Most of what we do guarantees nothing, but is done in order that the odds tilt a bit more in our favour. In Southern Ontario, we just have a few more variables to factor into our probability equations - as in alpine and on ice. That doesn't mean it's a particularly dangerous place to climb, just that some routes are more dangerous than they tend to be in other areas, and that they have to be climbed differently.

It's the nature of climbing that a person can do everything right and still get hurt. Cheers to Granite Girl and everyone else who has had bad luck on this limestone and still not given it up.


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