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not taking the time to drop your morning deuce before you get to the crag.

one time i got about 200 mosquito bites on my butt suffering from diarrhea in a poorly chosen latrine location.


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at the end of a long day and the beginning of a long rappel, tie a proper stopper knot.


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Most common safety problem among all climbers:

Through being tired or because of a lapse in attention, spacing out on critical safety practices. Why do folks forget to double back the harness, clip in to belays, or fully rig their rappel devices before leaning back? Cause they bonked from being tired or just otherwise weren't paying attention.

Not paying attention kills climbers. It will kill you driving or crossing the street. Most of us get tired of paying attention but mindfulness is like a muscle, get used to paying attention at all times throughout your life and you be present (and safer) for the life that you lead.

Peace

karl

To this good advice I'll add:

When you are really cold ( or really hot), tired, and feel like you are finally out of danger, but still off the ground, you are not only mentally impared, you tend to have a mental let down or relaxation that can really get you into trouble.

When you think you are safe, because you are much safer now than you were a few minutes ago, but you really aren't, that's one of those times when you do the dumb things, which, if you are lucky cause no problem, but if you are unlucky and make one small mistake on top of some boneheaded thing such as unclipping too soon, down you go.


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In reply to:
most common newbie mistakes,
Asking for advice on rc.com. :D

JL


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In reply to:
In reply to:
most common newbie mistakes,
Asking for advice on rc.com. :D

JL

Never hurts to ask if you don't leave the ground with it.

I think that maybe following the advise blindly and without cross checking it would count.

Jeff.


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without reading any of this..

I'd say a very common mistake would be in the use of runners to eliminate rope drag and to help minimize the walking of cams/ pulling of nuts. Big problems!

not protecting to avoid zippering

creating a situation where a factor 2 fall can occur when it is easily avoidable.

DROPPING SHIT!! god I hate that. and then not screaming like a banshee when you do! even worse!


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Treading on my rope.


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Overgripping everything and not using my feet


So true! I am still a newbie, and still trying to teach my brain to use my feet and legs more. I usually realize my mistake, yet again, when my arms feel like they're going to fall off.


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Climbing Shockley's Ceiling, apparently. :rolleyes:

T


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Try the tech tips at chockstone.org (link on main page of RC.com) and the tech tips at climbing.com too. They both have good info.


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Does it really matter? Just explain to them what they did wrong and help them....no need to bash.

But then again, ryan112ryan knows everything...ask him.


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not always listening to people when they tell me to try something different so all in all thinking i know everything


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This isn't a bad thing or even a mistake, but I've learned to trust my gear more and not over do it. Redundancy is a standard in our sport, and I practice it. But there is a point at where overredundancy is unnecessary and a waste of time and gear. Those who taught me climbing (thanks go out to those guys!) tended to go overboard with their anchor systems. 8^)


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On sustained routes where precious little energy was left in my arms, pausing to chalk up (which relates to another hot topic post) instead of just going strong for a better (i.e., more restful) stance.


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when i first started climbing I had this mindset that anyone who was more experienced than me and talked about safety a lot or owned a gym would definitely know what they are talking about and doing. Now I realize how bad of an idea that is, esp. after i was taught to belay incorrectly by a gym owner. ive watched people climb with broken bones, after urging them not to, without the safest available-at-the-moment gear, but because they said it was safe and I assumed their judgement was sound just because they we're more experienced than me, i took it. I never really considered that they might just be experienced and using bad judgement, and a knack for feeding their own egos.

when it comes to taking climbing advice from people (or advice in general), I tend to look at whether or not they act on what they say. If what they say seems good, but they don't act on it themselves, i take it with a grain of salt and discuss it with people that I KNOW are reliable sources of information, or research it to find out for sure. not to say that i never listen to people, i just use discretion where i see that its necessary.


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No offence, of all the reserected threads this is probably the most useful, but this thread is 3 years old...


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It doesn't matter how old a forum is if the information is useful. If its old enough where the information provided is no longer valid or useful, then the forum should be taken down.

I know if i would have stumbled on this as a newbie, I would have thought to question the things being taught to me at that time. I figure for people who are beginners, who would be likely to read a forum in the "beginners" category, it might be helpful so they can avoid some common mistakes. after all, isnt that the purpose of the forum?


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I did say it was useful, but all I was thinking of was... how many pages did you dig through to find this? or was it the search function?


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Putting the second on belay before all the slack was pulled up and then proceeding to pull all the slack through my belay device. Tongue


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[quote "saxfiend"][quote]most common newbie mistakes,[/quote]
Asking for advice on rc.com. :D

JL[/quote]

that's a priceless answer, ditto


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lets see, what mistakes did I make as a noob? oh, thats easy I never was a noob. but when I started climbing it would have been nice to get a 60 m rope, or even a 50 m but alas I got a 40. Some people might say that noob's should get a 70 m, but i've never found a route where I needed one all though some easy alpine routs might make sense. As far as climbing goes it would have been nice to know that falling onto bomber gear is an option, and not have to downclimb all the time.


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brownie710 wrote:
saxfiend wrote:
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most common newbie mistakes,
Asking for advice on rc.com. :D

JL

that's a priceless answer, ditto
Of course, it's not just n00bs who make that mistake.

JL


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[quote "kman"][quote]I think the most common thing I see is non doublebackers and peole when making an anchor only vlipping a biner on tope of the rope instead of tieng a bight or through the webbing so that if one bolt or pro fails the carabiner flies of the side resulting in certain death. I've rung out a few people for that one [/quote]

:?: Am I the only one that can't make sense of this?[/quote]

No


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[quote "amber"]at the end of a long day and the beginning of a long rappel, tie a proper stopper knot.[/quote]

And if you don't like stopper knots?


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brownie710 wrote:
[quote "saxfiend"]
In reply to:
most common newbie mistakes,[/quote]
Asking for advice on rc.com. :D

JL

that's a priceless answer, ditto
One of my noobie mistakes was cheesetitting. it still gets me once in a while, speicially in the lounge, but mostly I'm cured.

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