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Banta
Oct 17, 2008, 4:47 PM
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These newer climbing videos coming out are kind of ridiculous with the amount of product placement and bad acting. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these guys are putting makeup on before they go to shoot.. i mean.. send. So many of the problems in these movies look rehearsed and are often time climbed in a manner that looks "cool". Am I the only one who prefers the good ol' dirt baggish movies? I mean really who goes to send their problem wearing a brand new prana sweater and jeans? or when tommy caldwell is bouldering with that petzl headlamp on lol...
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Rubicon
Oct 17, 2008, 7:47 PM
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ppl love to complain about everything... something new and interesting comes out and u have to bitch about it instead of appreciating new material...
ridiculous imo
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cush
Oct 17, 2008, 8:04 PM
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both these movies rule and get my psyched to go out and climb. they're pro climbers. they get paid to make these videos and the more product placement they have the more money the video will make allowing these people to climb for a living. if you want to see more old school/dirt bag style climbing videos then go spend a hundered bucks on a sony handycam and make one yourself. I'll watch your videos just like i'd watch a video made by prana or some other overly priced apparel comany. quit bitching about climbing videos and go make one you'd want to watch. or better yet, quit bitching about climbing videos and go redpoint whatever line you've been working on.
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Banta
Oct 17, 2008, 8:22 PM
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I can see it now, your one of those "new age" bouldering kids whos been on real rock 3 times in his life and spends the rest of his time in the gym and you still call yourself a climber.
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cush
Oct 17, 2008, 8:58 PM
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yep, it sounds like you've got me pretty much figured out.
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dj69
Oct 17, 2008, 9:15 PM
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Banta wrote: ... or when tommy caldwell is bouldering with that petzl headlamp on...
First off that’s some bad product placement, tommy was using a black diamond headlamp FYI. (Tommy isn’t currently sponsored by petzl.)
Secondly, I couldn’t even see a logo on Tommy headlamp, even now when I watched the first dose specifically looking for it.
Sounds to me like someone might be jealous..
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wzrdgandalf
Oct 17, 2008, 9:47 PM
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Banta wrote: These newer climbing videos coming out are kind of ridiculous with the amount of product placement and bad acting. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these guys are putting makeup on before they go to shoot.. i mean.. send. So many of the problems in these movies look rehearsed and are often time climbed in a manner that looks "cool". Am I the only one who prefers the good ol' dirt baggish movies? I mean really who goes to send their problem wearing a brand new prana sweater and jeans? or when tommy caldwell is bouldering with that petzl headlamp on lol...
What do you expect them to wear while they are climbing? They are climbers with no job, prana supplies them with all of their clothing. If prana gave me my wardrobe then i would probably not argue and wear it.
Did you expect Tommy caldwell to wear a cheap headlamp from wal-mart? NO, why would he do that when his sponsors give him one? Should he renounce his sponsors for the sake of capturing the true essence of climbers worldwide.... oh wait, most people who night boulder would probably be found wearing the same or similar headlamps.
Get off it!
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Zerogeist
Oct 17, 2008, 10:55 PM
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wzrdgandalf wrote: Banta wrote: These newer climbing videos coming out are kind of ridiculous with the amount of product placement and bad acting. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these guys are putting makeup on before they go to shoot.. i mean.. send. So many of the problems in these movies look rehearsed and are often time climbed in a manner that looks "cool". Am I the only one who prefers the good ol' dirt baggish movies? I mean really who goes to send their problem wearing a brand new prana sweater and jeans? or when tommy caldwell is bouldering with that petzl headlamp on lol... What do you expect them to wear while they are climbing? They are climbers with no job, prana supplies them with all of their clothing. If prana gave me my wardrobe then i would probably not argue and wear it. Did you expect Tommy caldwell to wear a cheap headlamp from wal-mart? NO, why would he do that when his sponsors give him one? Should he renounce his sponsors for the sake of capturing the true essence of climbers worldwide.... oh wait, most people who night boulder would probably be found wearing the same or similar headlamps. Get off it!
qft.
please stop further feeding of the troll
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Banta
Oct 17, 2008, 11:16 PM
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The brand of his head lamp is irrelevant. My point is it's not needed. Maybe you guys are too ignorant to realize they are jamming these products down your throat. who the hell boulders with a head lamp? I can guarantee someone made him wear that stupid thing so that retards would think "oh wow thats cool ill go buy one so i can night boulder" he had flood lights as well wich is ALL you need.
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wordless_chorus
Oct 17, 2008, 11:27 PM
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carry out flood lights to boulders or carry tiny headlamp in case it gets dark???? flood lights fit well in my pad...
banta you suck
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Gravitron5000
Oct 17, 2008, 11:28 PM
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Most people that boulder at night use a headlamp. Conditions can be better at night if it's hot. Maybe trolls are afraid of the dark, and go home before the streetlights are turned on.
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jakedatc
Oct 17, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Do you watch any other sports? Football, baseball, hockey, golf, tennis.. they are ALL sponsored and ALL wear what they are sponsored by. Golf guys are the easiest example.. Nike shoes, Titlist balls, Callaway clubs, big ass Callaway bag. Hat, sunglasses etc. Many wear their sunglasses backwards half the time but keep them on so the sponsor gets air time. Hell one of the US olympic guys beach Vball players wore no lenses in his sunglasses for a few games.
How else do you think they get paid and free gear? 
They have been plugging sponsors in climbing vids too.. Big Petzl patches on draws, Cordless pads, everyone using Gri Gri's, brand new harness, latest or most popular shoe from 5.10 or sportiva
someone is too ignorant to think this is something new.
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Banta
Oct 18, 2008, 12:12 AM
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watch rampage then watch dosage v and tell me its not new.
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jmvc
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Banta wrote: who the hell boulders with a head lamp?
Errm.. Me?
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boombewm
Oct 18, 2008, 8:40 AM
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damn, I can't find it. I have this awesomely bad picture of me wearing jeans a brand new prana hoodie (with the tag still on it), bouldering in the dark at red rocks, trashed beyond all belief...When I find it, I'll post it. noob.
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bayinghounds
Oct 18, 2008, 2:44 PM
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Banta wrote: watch rampage then watch dosage v and tell me its not new.
there's prana gear all over rampage. obe is wearing a hat blatantly displaying the prana logo pretty much throughout the entire film.
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jakedatc
Oct 18, 2008, 3:57 PM
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Yep, They also had FEWER sponsors in Rampage.. Prana.. 5.10.. Petzl were still all in there plenty.
haven't seen Dose 5 yet.. want to send me your copy since you hate it?
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rhythm164
Oct 18, 2008, 4:57 PM
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jmvc wrote: Banta wrote: who the hell boulders with a head lamp? Errm.. Me?
me too
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gt29905
Oct 18, 2008, 5:51 PM
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I've really enjoyed everything that bigupproductions has offered and I think Banta's argument is pretty ridiculous BUT I see what he's getting at. MY POINT is that there was one source of media that was relatively pure and now it's DEAD!
ALPINIST IS DEAD!
I'm in mourning. The NPR of the climbing world is dead. I'm trying to motivate some type of reader based plot to save the company but it's a long shot at best. I should start a thread but the bullshit flamers would make me even more depressed.
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