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angry
Nov 11, 2008, 6:27 PM
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Ha, made you look.
So quick question, is anyone here wearing plain ole neoprene fishing gloves ice climbing? I am thinking they'd be prefect. Waterproof and when they get wet, it's like a wetsuit. Boom, done.
I was trying a few on yesterday at the hick store and I noticed that they have a pretty strong rubber springiness. Meaning that I actually had to squeeze my hand to grip stuff. I wonder if this would speed the time it takes to get pumped.
Real ice climbing gloves all suck teh ass in my experience, that's why I'm looking elsewhere.
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suilenroc
Nov 11, 2008, 6:34 PM
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Nuke gay baby whales for christ.
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climbsomething
Nov 11, 2008, 6:55 PM
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I was actually expecting this to be from camhead.
But you are Teh Evil Camhead, so close enough.
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moose_droppings
Nov 11, 2008, 6:58 PM
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Me and the wife tried pairs of these one winter.
The lack of insulation makes for awfully cold fingers in temps of 20 degrees or colder.
Fingers stayed dry, but frozen.
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colatownkid
Nov 11, 2008, 7:05 PM
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moose_droppings raises a good point. i wonder if you couldn't use a pair of glove liners and wear the neoprene over those to help with the frozen fingers?
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angry
Nov 11, 2008, 7:13 PM
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I have a really thin pair of liners. Warmth isn't really the concern. Once I get the barfies once, my hands are pretty warm all day unless I spend a long time between routes.
My question is, do you think that extra springiness of the neoprene will pump you out sooner? It's got a fair bit of rebound to it, you actually have to squeeze to close your hand, not hard but more than in regular gloves.
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colatownkid
Nov 11, 2008, 7:16 PM
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i suppose that's definitely a possibility. having never tried a pair myself, i couldn't really say, but i assume that they get harder to squeeze the closer you get to a fist? if there's a tool in your hand, it will reduce the distance you have to squeeze and might make it less of a problem. without actually trying them on though i just don't know. sorry.
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camhead
Nov 11, 2008, 7:26 PM
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Jesus loving puppy rapers wear neoprene gloves.
Puppy loving Jesus rapers wear goretex gloves.
Jesus wears gloves with holes in the palms, so they're not very waterproof.
The gneiss angry haz spoken.
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ryanb
Nov 11, 2008, 7:32 PM
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Have your tried those woven but rubber coated gardening/fishing gloves?
http://www.lfsinc.com/...tlasGardenGloves.htm
Cheap, available in different levels of insulation/rubber coverage and really grippy. I picked up a pair ment for fishing last winter while getting a tire fixed on on ice trip...I'm an inexperienced ice climber but they worked well enough that i started to use them for bike commuting, and a river guide friend said they will use something similar for cold conditions. I think some of them have cotton in them.
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hafilax
Nov 11, 2008, 7:37 PM
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I have friends on the wet coast that swear by those.^^^
They're cheap so they bring a pair/ pitch with belay gloves as well.
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qqac
Nov 11, 2008, 7:41 PM
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Some of my ice climbing buddies use pre-curved neoprene gloves (Kenai, Glacier Gloves). They're not too taxing on the grip, but they get trashed easily by all the sharp thingies involved in ice climbing.
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angry
Nov 11, 2008, 7:48 PM
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ryanb wrote: Have your tried those woven but rubber coated gardening/fishing gloves? http://www.lfsinc.com/...tlasGardenGloves.htm Cheap, available in different levels of insulation/rubber coverage and really grippy. I picked up a pair ment for fishing last winter while getting a tire fixed on on ice trip...I'm an inexperienced ice climber but they worked well enough that i started to use them for bike commuting, and a river guide friend said they will use something similar for cold conditions. I think some of them have cotton in them.
I have a pair of those. Totally not waterproof but usually it's one wet glove vs another wet glove. Might as well be a cheap one.
The only problem I've had with climbing in soaking wet gloves is that they freeze and mess up my dexterity. For < $20, I should just get some neoprene ones as an experiment.
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EvilMonkey
Nov 12, 2008, 11:51 AM
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i tried using my neoprene surfing gloves, which have slightly pre-bent fingers like mountain hardwear jalepenos. holding my tools wasn't a problem till my hands froze solid. i think the rubber actually attracts the cold, and fast. i tossed em half a pitch up. imo you'd be better off climbing with no gloves at all, but you may as well give it a try if they're cheap.
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Skabbi
Nov 12, 2008, 12:44 PM
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Yo
This topic was up for debate a few weeks back. I pointed out these ones: http://www.mec.ca/...;bmUID=1222786596386
Cheap, good grip and somewhat warm...ish.
Seems that if neoprene gloves really were da shizznitz for ice, people would have caught on by now. Or not...
Ska
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sungam
Nov 12, 2008, 1:00 PM
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Experiment away, but I found them fairly fecking cold.
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altelis
Nov 12, 2008, 2:05 PM
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yea- i wasn't sure about how the neoprene would keep you warm. a wet suit keeps you warm by allowing a thin layer of water to stay between you and the neoprene that is thermally insulated from the rest of the cold water surrounding you.
in a climbing situation you wouldn't have this effect- the neoprene doesn't (as far as i understand) insulate against radiative heat loss as well as against convective heat loss. so it seems that if you were climbing a waterfall with a little ice they may work well (for the hands at least  )
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graniteboy
Nov 12, 2008, 10:59 PM
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I used to use Neoprene gloves for ice climbing...WAyyyyyy back in the 1970s and 80s.
Basically, they don't work too well. as someone else pointed out, they aren't too good at the conductive heat loss deal, and tend to make yer hands pretty damned cold when your knuckles are on the ice.....
I use em only when temps are above freezing....and I tend not to climb ice at those temps much.
All in all, for ice, forget teh neoprene....bring 2 pairs of gloves with you. Maybe more.
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angry
Nov 13, 2008, 9:06 PM
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Thats the beauty of this website. I don't need to experiment. If no-one has ever had any good experiences, why would my experience be different.
So I saved $17.99 and a day with cold hands, not bad.
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climbsomething
Nov 13, 2008, 9:14 PM
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camhead wrote: Jesus wears gloves with holes in the palms, so they're not very waterproof.
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j_ung
Nov 13, 2008, 9:36 PM
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This would have been a pretty good rickroll, too. Not that I, ahem, condone that sort of thing.
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Nov 14, 2008, 2:30 AM
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angry wrote: Ha, made you look. So quick question, is anyone here wearing plain ole neoprene fishing gloves ice climbing? I am thinking they'd be prefect. Waterproof and when they get wet, it's like a wetsuit. Boom, done. I was trying a few on yesterday at the hick store and I noticed that they have a pretty strong rubber springiness. Meaning that I actually had to squeeze my hand to grip stuff. I wonder if this would speed the time it takes to get pumped. Real ice climbing gloves all suck teh ass in my experience, that's why I'm looking elsewhere.
They would/do suck was the consensus.
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chossmonkey
Nov 14, 2008, 2:30 AM
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Oh yeah.
Do a fucking search!!!
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coastal_climber
Nov 16, 2008, 5:28 PM
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Neoprene gloves suck. The stitching between the thumb and forefinger will pull, and you'll sweat like a fat man eating soup.
>Cam
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