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crazy_fingers84
Nov 18, 2008, 9:39 PM
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I came across this video today while I was bored at school.
http://chrislindner.com/...g_5.10_at_age_4.html
I thought I would share it . . . To think of what I could be doing if I was climbing at 4. Hell, my first 5.10 trad lead was when I was 24.
Too bad he turned out to be to be a sport climber.
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hosh
Nov 18, 2008, 9:50 PM
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amazing. One day, maybe my 2 year old son will be doing this? He already TR's 5.3! (is there such a thing?) He's fearless, I may be able to get him doing some trad as soon as I can convince the wife. (He also asks me about ice all the time!)
hosh.
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858jason
Nov 18, 2008, 9:54 PM
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crazy_fingers84 wrote: I came across this video today while I was bored at school. http://chrislindner.com/...g_5.10_at_age_4.html I thought I would share it . . . To think of what I could be doing if I was climbing at 4. Hell, my first 5.10 trad lead was when I was 24. Too bad he turned out to be to be a sport climber.
Damn kids, get off my rock!
Robbins Crack was my first 5.10 trad lead at age 36.
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dreday3000
Nov 18, 2008, 9:58 PM
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Damn, that is pretty impressive. That said, I heard that Chris's dad step over the line between encouraging and psychotic quite a few times.
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spikeddem
Nov 18, 2008, 10:00 PM
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Seems to me they're actually pretending he's bouldering: "Don't trust the pieces, Cam."
The plan is to just catch him if he falls?
I don't like it.
Impressive though.
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suilenroc
Nov 18, 2008, 11:30 PM
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In reply to: I thought I would share it . . . To think of what I could be doing if I was climbing at 4. Hell, my first 5.10 trad lead was when I was 24. Too bad he turned out to be to be a sport climber.
According to Chris Linder in the movie Spray... His father was trad climbing, took a fall, some pro blew, and he broke his back... I think i'd switch to clipp'in bolts too.
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c22
Nov 18, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Did you know that Tom (Chris' dad) cut off the body cast to climb? That he still climbs trad, that both Chris' mom and dad, in their 50's still climb 13's or that Tom was an Olympic Gymnast on the high bars?
It's a whole family of badasses. Tom has a bad rap for a few moments at the crag, but that's what you get when you raise a child in the public eye. Tom was stern, but both father and son say that things got blown out of proportion by the media. Mr. Lindner's a really good guy, but strict to. Definately not psychotic though.
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c22
Nov 18, 2008, 11:49 PM
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Oh, and I believe that chris climbed his first 12 at age 6 and his first 14 at age 14.
And he absolutely boulders also.
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yokese
Nov 19, 2008, 12:05 AM
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Cool vid of Chris (for some reaon I couldn't see it in FireFox, but in safari it works ok)...
In RC there is a picture of him SOLOING that very same route when he was 4 years old.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/....10a_1992_72869.html
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johnwesely
Nov 19, 2008, 12:16 AM
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And the responsible parent of the year award goes to...
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johnwesely
Nov 19, 2008, 1:55 AM
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Me too...
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Hennessey
Nov 19, 2008, 2:01 AM
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me three
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johnwesely
Nov 19, 2008, 2:07 AM
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I just hope that one day I can be that irresponsible.
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deltav
Nov 19, 2008, 2:33 AM
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As a new parent, I can say that while I once thought the same thing, I know now it is a very stupid thought. Yes my kid will climb, and yes starting young, but no, not free soloing at age 4.
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evanwish
Nov 19, 2008, 2:51 AM
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deltav wrote: As a new parent, I can say that while I once thought the same thing, I know now it is a very stupid thought. Yes my kid will climb, and yes starting young, but no, not free soloing at age 4.
i still don't freesolo much...
i just wish i started out climbing alot younger.. I climbed really young, but that was once a year..
i think most of us here wished we started earlier.. we'd all be so much beter.
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milesenoell
Nov 19, 2008, 3:16 AM
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I started at 28 and used to grumble about how it would have been great to have started in my teens, but now I'm thinking that even that would have been waiting 10 years longer than necessary. I can't find any harnesses that come anywhere close to as small as my 20 month old son's size though. My brother got the smallest harness he could find and is still waiting for my nephew to grow into it and he's coming up on 4. We joke about just duct taping him into it. Anybody know where to look for super small harnesses?
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TradEddie
Nov 19, 2008, 3:34 AM
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In reply to: not free soloing at age 4.
Climbing 2 feet above someone who can easily catch you is hardly free soloing but that vid was a clean trad lead, and no matter how rehearsed, or how much help having smaller hands and feet was, that is impressive. His parents felt he could do it, and were obviously right
Congrats to the kid, my 5yr old can do 5.5 on TR, but he can't fully retract a big cam!
TE
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jt512
Nov 19, 2008, 3:36 AM
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c22 wrote: Did you know that Tom (Chris' dad) cut off the body cast to climb?
That's one Tom Lindner story I hadn't heard. Wouldn't doubt it a bit, though.
Jay
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shockabuku
Nov 19, 2008, 3:37 AM
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Poor kid, here's his dad pushing him into the counter-culture, what's he do to rebel? Join the Young Republicans?
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jt512
Nov 19, 2008, 3:39 AM
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shockabuku wrote: Poor kid, here's his dad pushing him into the counter-culture, what's he do to rebel? Join the Young Republicans?
Actually, he became a professional climber. What is it with kids today?
Edit: I think Chris's idea of rebellion was becoming a boulderer for several years.
Jay
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TradEddie
Nov 19, 2008, 3:42 AM
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milesenoell wrote: Anybody know where to look for super small harnesses?
Apparently you need full body harnesses for very small kids. Petzl's Ousititi (maybe spelled wrong) fit my skinny son at 3-1/2 yrs. It did have two straps at the back that looked really loose until he got bigger, but it was snug and secure.
TE
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spikeddem
Nov 19, 2008, 3:58 AM
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TradEddie wrote: His parents felt he could do it, and were obviously right TE
There's a certain probability that anybody will drop something or make a silly mistake. As we become more knowledgeable and our bodies become more adept through repetitive movements, we can lower the probability. This child is four.
Chris and his parents got lucky. They beat that probability.
Any speculations on what would happen to the image of climbing and/or access if a four year old was killed/injured trad climbing?
What kind of fucking excuse could the parents POSSIBLY offer?
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Nov 19, 2008, 4:05 AM
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I have 3 kids, ages 1, 4, and 6. While watching this I was impressed by the maturity level of the kid, his calmness. His father must have been a good teacher and patient with him. I guess everyone has the right to raise their kids how they see fit but this seems over the top to me. I can hear the fear in the father's voice during some points in the climb. He wasn't able to see the placements to determine if they were good. Spotting the kid, even a 40 pounder, is not really practical from 25 feet up. I'm trying not to be too critical here because I do set up TR climbs for my 4 and 6 year old and some people would surely criticize me for that too. I personally could not witness that kid climb if he were my son, I would probably throw up - that's just me.
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