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possum2082


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they're heeeeere:

http://rockempire.com/...?category=cams#comet


evanwish


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where'd they go? they stopped making them?

i have a set of the RE Durangos which seemed great when i was still a no0b but now never get placed..

plus i don't get what would make someone choose the commet over the durango.. anyone?


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From the RE website:
"Neat & Cool Climbing Equipment"... anyone else find that lame and sketchy?


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Dec 8, 2008, 8:14 PM
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suilenroc wrote:
From the RE website:
"Neat & Cool Climbing Equipment"... anyone else find that lame and sketchy?

Nope. Just you I'm afraid.

DMT


possum2082


Dec 8, 2008, 8:24 PM
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they stopped making them for a bit. supposdely, i've heard the comets have a stiffer stem. personally, i like being able to see the stem in case of any loose hairs.

they've always been "neat and cool."


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i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)


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suilenroc wrote:
From the RE website:
"Neat & Cool Climbing Equipment"... anyone else find that lame and sketchy?
The name is taken from a crag in the Little Smoke Bluffs in Squamish. Somebody spray painted "I am neat & cool" on the rock. I guess whoever started that distribution company identifies with that individual. It's mentioned in the About Us section of the website.


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evanwish wrote:
i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)
if you need to protect something that big on a budget why not go with big bros?


evanwish


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patmay81 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)
if you need to protect something that big on a budget why not go with big bros?

i have the #4 Big Bro (7-12") it has an amazing expansion range, but you really do need a PERFECTLY parallel spot to place it..

if you're in a paralell crack you can place it in about 10 seconds, but in non perfect or iregular cracks its taken me up to 5 minutes to find a placement.. eikes!

but yeah when you do find one, they're bomber as hell.


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patmay81 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)
if you need to protect something that big on a budget why not go with big bros?
Cams are easier to place. You can push a cam up as you go and place Big Bros behind as a back up. The lead-top-rope technique.


possum2082


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i didn't know the pulsars were even available now.
there website doesn't list them as an option.


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Dec 9, 2008, 12:29 AM
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Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.


suilenroc


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angry wrote:
Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.

cause it is "neat and cool climbing equipment", duh...Tongue


evanwish


Dec 9, 2008, 5:02 AM
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angry wrote:
Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.

what do you think about them making valley giant size cams? its not like you would need the cams to be mega durable since you don't use that size too often..

you know, anything cheaper than the Valley Giants :/


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evanwish wrote:
angry wrote:
Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.

what do you think about them making valley giant size cams? its not like you would need the cams to be mega durable since you don't use that size too often..

you know, anything cheaper than the Valley Giants :/

I think at $150 and $225 respectively for the Valley Giants is a steal. Tom should charge 3 times that. You should buy a set and be damn glad you have them. A big cam is more than just a much larger small cam, I don't think RE would get that. I'd take a #9 and #12 VG over a wheelbarrow full of big bro's.

I broke a #7 Pulsar in a very routine situation that a 5 friend or 4.5 camalot would have barely received a scratch. Rock Empire refused to even replace the unit. They are a shit company and the corners they cut do matter. Strength of a unit is only a very small part of what makes a cam useful.


evanwish


Dec 9, 2008, 5:21 AM
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angry wrote:
evanwish wrote:
angry wrote:
Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.

what do you think about them making valley giant size cams? its not like you would need the cams to be mega durable since you don't use that size too often..

you know, anything cheaper than the Valley Giants :/

I think at $150 and $225 respectively for the Valley Giants is a steal. Tom should charge 3 times that. You should buy a set and be damn glad you have them. A big cam is more than just a much larger small cam, I don't think RE would get that. I'd take a #9 and #12 VG over a wheelbarrow full of big bro's.

I broke a #7 Pulsar in a very routine situation that a 5 friend or 4.5 camalot would have barely received a scratch. Rock Empire refused to even replace the unit. They are a shit company and the corners they cut do matter. Strength of a unit is only a very small part of what makes a cam useful.

$150?? ok wow. I thought they started at $250 (glad i was wrong!)
I would really like something to supplement my big bro.. and $150 is a steal when you compare it to the cost of a #6 friend! [thanks]

so how did you break the cam?


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I whipped on it, probably no more than 10 feet. The aluminum rod that holds the cables apart, functions as a thumb loop, and holds the sling in place broke. It didn't fail but it was useless after that.

I thought cheap big cams were a good idea at first. They lasted about a season. They're all pretty much trashed right now, not really usable. Buy nice or buy twice is very true here.


suilenroc


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angry wrote:
evanwish wrote:
angry wrote:
Why would anyone be excited about the craptastic return of crap?

Junk is, well, it's junk.

what do you think about them making valley giant size cams? its not like you would need the cams to be mega durable since you don't use that size too often..

you know, anything cheaper than the Valley Giants :/

I think at $150 and $225 respectively for the Valley Giants is a steal. Tom should charge 3 times that. You should buy a set and be damn glad you have them. A big cam is more than just a much larger small cam, I don't think RE would get that. I'd take a #9 and #12 VG over a wheelbarrow full of big bro's.

I broke a #7 Pulsar in a very routine situation that a 5 friend or 4.5 camalot would have barely received a scratch. Rock Empire refused to even replace the unit. They are a shit company and the corners they cut do matter. Strength of a unit is only a very small part of what makes a cam useful.

so "neat and cool" does not = quality... check!Smile

ADD: did you buy a pulsar drunk at a flea market? wtf were you thinking?


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angry wrote:
I whipped on it, probably no more than 10 feet. The aluminum rod that holds the cables apart, functions as a thumb loop, and holds the sling in place broke. It didn't fail but it was useless after that.

I thought cheap big cams were a good idea at first. They lasted about a season. They're all pretty much trashed right now, not really usable. Buy nice or buy twice is very true here.

wow. thats unacceptable.

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Buy nice or buy twice is very true here.
hmmm. i'll take your word for it. that a real bummer.


josephgdawson


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suilenroc wrote:
From the RE website:
"Neat & Cool Climbing Equipment"... anyone else find that lame and sketchy?

The founder of the site is Europeon, cut him some slack.


dingus


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josephgdawson wrote:
suilenroc wrote:
From the RE website:
"Neat & Cool Climbing Equipment"... anyone else find that lame and sketchy?

The founder of the site is Europeon, cut him some slack.

Ah let the kid have his neat and cool rant.

Sullen Roc, that's a perfect name.

DMT


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angry wrote:
I whipped on it, probably no more than 10 feet. The aluminum rod that holds the cables apart, functions as a thumb loop, and holds the sling in place broke. It didn't fail but it was useless after that.

I thought cheap big cams were a good idea at first. They lasted about a season. They're all pretty much trashed right now, not really usable. Buy nice or buy twice is very true here.

I second angry here, I wouldn't buy their big cams, or there small cams for that matter because they are not that cheap and their range is awful.
I bought a 3 inch robot cam because it was ten bucks off ebay and I wanted to check it out, and it is the the most unstable looking cam I have every seen. The head with is much smaller than my single stem 2" cam even though it is a U-stem and the trigger is really hard to pull because is you try to use it like a metolious trigger it pinches your finger on the wire.
I am not bummed though because it did what I bought it to do, settle my curiosity about RE cams.


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evanwish wrote:
i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)

WTF? I just ordered a #9 for the guy that makes them and I paid $150 + tax.


donald949


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knieveltech wrote:
evanwish wrote:
i really wish they'd make the Pulsar cams bigger than the #7

you know, something to substitute the expensive Valley Giants ($250-350)

WTF? I just ordered a #9 for the guy that makes them and I paid $150 + tax.

Dang a buck fifty, that aint bad. What he want for the #12?
But I do have #5 - #7 Pulsars, as they are the next sizes up from my #8 Metolious FCU's. Specifically, got them for Great White Book on Staley Pleasure Dome up in the Meadows this past summer. Then I didn't climb it as I had twisted my ankle walking down the backside hill of Tahq. I did use the #5 Pulsar that day, it places fine, despite the dumb trigger. Crazy Those cams would be many times nicers with decent triggers.
Also, didn't Comet cams used come in sizes 6 and 7 same as pulsars? http://www.gearexpress.biz/...p;Product_Code=81007
Christmas I'm getting #6 and #5 Camalots from REI with 20% off coupons. Wife and I both members. Sly


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Anyone need me to go with them to TM next July to do GWB? I got enough cams to sew it up. Don't want anyone getting hurt up there when we could pro it good.
Just need to let the wife know I'm olny going for my friend's Safety. ;D

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