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kagunkie
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Maby its to gain experience, to experience things you dont see or feel unless you make the effort to go that extra mile and not be satisfied untill you can go no farther.
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russman
Jul 11, 2001, 5:03 AM
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I don't get teh ?. numbers...who would climb for numbers...personally, once again in my opinion...I love the thrill of seeing a cliff finding a way to get to it and then climbing it. i guess that is a vote for adventure...if someone...professional or not is out there climbing just for numbers...i think they need to STOP...take a look deep inside themselves and really evaluate what in the HELL they are doing...jsut like anything...when you start doing it JUST for numbers or for $$$ you better stop and evalate. my opinion:)
the Russman
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Jul 11, 2001, 5:05 AM
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I'm not going to lie, I think about numbers and sponsorships and all that crap when I'm not on the rock. I like climbing, and I like climbing hard, the numbers are a great way to measure my progression and I would do quite a lot of 'selling out' in order to gain sponsorship and climb 325 days a year all around the world.
But......when I'm on the rock, none of that matters, I don't care anymore. How can I care when I'm not thinking about anything other than the climb?
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jsm280
Jul 11, 2001, 4:17 PM
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Adventure.....
Nothing like looking out over the land and knowing the risk when the payoff is as simple as sitting on top af a rock several hundred feet up with a water bottle and some gear. The only other person around is your partner who as you, is in their own world.
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graniteboy
Dec 25, 2001, 6:14 PM
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WELL, in MY CASE, you're ALL WRONG; Graniteboy climbs for GUINESS STOUT. Nothing more. Next to pure and total enlightenment, which none of us are gonna reach, this reason is the most pure, and leaves you feeling nicer than U do when you're pimping your abilities to corporate sponsors...
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airscape
Dec 25, 2001, 6:39 PM
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It is the monkey in all of us!!
Personaly, I enjoy the satisfaction of reaching the top of a puzzle that I have just completed, all my muscles pumped out, and then to just hang there and appreciate the view. Then go back down, or on to the next pitch and try another puzzle! It is the best feeling in the world
Oh yes AND THE GUINNESS!!!!!!!!!!!
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hangerlessbolt
Dec 25, 2001, 6:59 PM
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The essence of climbing is all encompassing….
Some days I climb because I want to feel the sun on my back and the wind in my face…
Some days I climb because I want to feel my body stretch across the rock….
Some days I climb because I want to hang out with friends…
I climb when I’m Happy….
I climb when I’m Angry….
I climb when I can’t feel…
And I climb to feel it all…
Some days I climb…just to get high….
***The numbers just let me know if I can get on the route without leaving any gear***
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wolftek
Dec 25, 2001, 11:11 PM
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I'd have to say the adventure and add to that the enjoyment. There are some 5.6's and 5.7's that to me are just pure fun, and it's sad that some people will skip those climbs just because of the numbers. I look for climbs that are a. fun and b. a challenge, but fun comes first.
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rrrADAM
Dec 25, 2001, 11:27 PM
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Percieved Risk = Pucker Factor
I enjoy climbs with the most pucker factor... Exposed, Rooves, Sketchy Moves, etc...
In order of most Pucker Factor:
1)Highballing
2)Runout Trad
3)Trad
4)Bouldering
5)Runout Sport
6)Sport
7)TR
Just my opinion... Listed in the order of Commitment required.
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mountainrat
Dec 26, 2001, 3:41 AM
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Anyone climbing for bragging rights might want to get honest about their motivations. HONESTLY, I struggle with what I tell others about what I have done and how; I always ask myself if I'm talking about something to try to impress someone,or if I'm talking about something that plucks the common string of our humanity and experience. What we do and who we are speak so loudly that people don't really hear what we say, anyway...
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saltspringer
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risk is getting in a car and going for a drive anywhere...climbing is fun with a lot less risk...
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diarmid
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"But risks must be taken because the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing. The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he cannot learn, feel, change, grow or live. Chained by his servitude he is a slave who has forfeited all freedom. Only a person who risks is free. The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; and the realist adjusts the sails."
— William Arthur Ward.
To put yourself into a situation where a mistake cannot necessarily be recouped, where the life you lose may be your own, clears the head wonderfully. It puts domestic problems back into proportion and adds an element of seriousness to your drab, routine life. Perhaps this is one reason why climbing has become increasingly hard as society has become increasingly, disproportionately, coddling.
-A. Alvarez , The Games Climbers Play
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reno
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Risk is inherent in life. Never has this been more apparent than 9-11-01, when people unknowlingly took a risk by going to work that day. Then too, we have a responsibility to ourselves, our families, our friends, and our fellow climbers to mitigate that risk as much as possible, else our sport rapidly becomes extinct.
So to say "I can't do it....it's too risky" is both a responsible statement and a dishonest one. Seneca once said "It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that things are difficult."
I do not climb to experience risk. Nor do I climg to get numbers. I climb because it is peaceful, relaxing, and a wonderful way to keep myself in good physical condition. No more, no less.
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JRB
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old_school
Jan 8, 2002, 8:40 PM
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it's all in good fun
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missedyno
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climbing puts the rest of my life in perspective.
not only do i love it, but when you learn a level of trust and belief in a few slings, a rope, and locking biners, it really filters out the BS in life.
i currently work in an office environment that is plagued with "he said she said" crapola.
do i care? no, not at all. does any of this petty crap have an effect on my life? no. do i know a real life or death situation? yes.
i love to climb, for the personal hurdles i have overcome related to the sport. for starters, a severe fear/phobia of heights. last tuesday was monumental in my life because i climbed 8 pitches and never noticed. i had lost track of how many pitches we had done because i was having too much fun! it is only now, when i look at my pictures of that climb, that i can see i was easily up around 600' or so.
with climbing i have said goodbye to that timid, frightened little girl who used to dare herself just to look over the edge of a porch 20' up, knuckles turning white while she held the railing for dear life.
it represents many other changes in my life, and a whole new resolution and perception. if i put my mind to it, i CAN do it, and if i can't, well i've tasted failure before and it's not that bad. and do i care about office gossip and other politics humans like to drown in? no. am i scared to say that? no.
from climbing, i have gained confidence. no risks there!
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toobigtoclimb
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What is Risk?
Risk is Life.
Life and Risk are both games from Milton Bradley.
Therefore Life is a game, as is Risk.
..and Milton Bradley created it all.
If we could find that guy we could figure it all out!
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kriso9tails
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I was thinking the same thing.
Somehow that reminds me of
"Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind."
Jack Handy
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missedyno
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kriso9: LOL!!!
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jmlangford
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When you are as average as I am, you HAVE to climb for adventure and not for numbers!
P.S. I'm all for finding that Milton Bradley guy too!
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christiangadlerpadrin
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i climb because i like the altitud and defy a rock.
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missedyno
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as long as that wasn't to climb for attitude and to defile a rock!
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five_twelve_gonnabe
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I love being on the rock, leading and knowing that is me against the rock. I guess I'm in it for the adventure. Every time I climb I think of a quote I heard a long time ago:
"We don't take risks to escape life, but rather to keep life from escaping us."
Who ever said that must have been a climber!
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gooch
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When I climb I know I am Alive.
When I look from the top of a mountain there is only happiness in my heart.
What other reason could you possibly need?
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caleb_danner
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[quote "saltspringer"]risk is getting in a car and going for a drive anywhere...climbing is fun with a lot less risk...[/quote]
This is what i tell people and they think I'm nuts
i tell them if it is set up properly and gear is in good condition than it is safer than a car. with a car their is allot of unknown variables. "is that person going to run a red light"
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