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franckmoris
Mar 1, 2009, 9:20 PM
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what look like e starting kit for aid climbing
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rockforlife
Mar 1, 2009, 9:24 PM
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franckmoris wrote: what look like e starting kit for aid climbing
come on, really?
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franckmoris
Mar 1, 2009, 9:40 PM
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yes,hi not ??
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franckmoris
Mar 1, 2009, 9:52 PM
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yes,hi not
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kevinhansen
Mar 2, 2009, 3:23 AM
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rockforlife wrote: franckmoris wrote: what look like e starting kit for aid climbing come on, really?
http://www.amazon.com/...ineers/dp/0898867487
Step 1 is buy this book. (Jared Ogden's Big Wall Elete technique).
Step 2 comes after you read the book cover to cover.
Oh and read everything on this forum.
Oh and find someone who will show you what's up.
I'll do it for $100 a day. ;-) It will include you working your tail off hauling "our" gear up a wall in Zion.
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summerprophet
Mar 2, 2009, 8:26 PM
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franckmoris wrote: what look like e starting kit for aid climbing
To begin aiding and have enough gear to practice.
HELMET, Full free rack, micro nuts, micro cams, aiders, daisies, hooks, gloves, jugs, loads-O-tie offs
At around a thousand bucks, (not including free gear), you will have just enough to practice with, and not enough to do anything fun.
AIDING is a lot of work....... very little of it enjoyable.
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Alpine07
Mar 2, 2009, 8:52 PM
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summerprophet wrote: franckmoris wrote: what look like e starting kit for aid climbing To begin aiding and have enough gear to practice. HELMET, Full free rack, micro nuts, micro cams, aiders, daisies, hooks, gloves, jugs, loads-O-tie offs At around a thousand bucks, (not including free gear), you will have just enough to practice with, and not enough to do anything fun. AIDING is a lot of work....... very little of it enjoyable.
Thats is not entirely true. While it is nice to have all that gear, it is not necessary. I started out on a set of stoppers, a cam, and some tied aiders, haha. I'm not saying that is the best way to go about it, but it is indeed possible. There is no point in going out and spending a bunch of money just to try something out.
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summerprophet
Mar 2, 2009, 8:59 PM
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Perhaps not entirely true, but you will agree that without these, you are unable to learn all the skills required to actually take it to the next level.
In all honesty, I learned to aid climb (w. self belay)at the age of 15 with just my rack, tied aiders and daisies and a handfull of 3" nails and a few 6" spikes...... and a 60' tall cedar tree.
tap in the nail, slip a nut over the top...... move onto the next before the nail pulls... get 20' up and drive in a spike before you A) zipper the line to a ground fall or B) Shit your pants waiting for A.
Obviously this is not the recommended learning method....
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Alpine07
Mar 2, 2009, 9:12 PM
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I will agree with that. But just for seeing if its something that you are interested in, you may as well give it a shot with what you have. You will of course have to invest more if it is something that you are going to pursue.
Very Nice! That is quite similar to my first aid climb, except mine was on rock.
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moof
Mar 2, 2009, 11:39 PM
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Don't forget some kneepads! Just the simple volleyball ones work fine, and are about $5-6/pair.
My first aiding was on a 5.12 fingercrack. It was doable with just a set of #1-13 stoppers. We ran TR laps trying to get up with fewer pieces that eachother, and faster too. On TR it's much easier to practice top stepping and other such tomfoolery.
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sungam
Mar 15, 2009, 12:40 AM
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summerprophet wrote: AIDING is a lot of work....... very little of it enjoyable.
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justsendingits
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to the original poster, a lot of these people posting have no idea what they are talking about. getting advice online about aid climbing can be sketchy to say the least,
1. you don't need knee pads to climb big walls, almost all of the regular climbers in Yosemite don't use knee pads.
2. It's bet if you do 100 pitches or more of multi pitch free climbing before you do a grade 5 ,it really helps if you are good at rope management, and are proficient in the basics of of climbing.
3. Aid climbing for me is FUN, especially the expando
4. Your going to die!
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Guran
Mar 17, 2009, 1:42 PM
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franckmoris wrote: what look like e starting kit for aid climbing
Get a par of kneepads and a pair of boots that can take some abuse.
Get someone with LOTS of patience to guard you on a top rope, or set up a TR-solo system (no I won't say how)
Get on a route some day with crap weather, so you dont spoil a fine free climbing day.
Make sure you can back off if you need to.
Don't hurt the rock. Esp not on established routes.
You'll learn a thing orr two about aiding, and a TOn about gear placement.
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