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jakedatc
Mar 26, 2009, 10:49 PM
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In reply to: New Hampshire The following NH areas are temporarily closed until August 1 (Some restrictions may be lifted early — always check on site): Cathedral Ledge (parts of upper left), Eagle Cliff (northern end), Holts Ledge, Painted Walls, Rattlesnake Mtn. (main cliff only), Square Ledge. For more information, contact Chris Martin, Senior Biologist, Audubon Society of New Hampshire at 603.224.9909. http://www.accessfund.org/...dex.php#NewHampshire
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basilisk
Mar 26, 2009, 11:14 PM
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Bummer. Should probably find out which Square Ledge that is
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jakedatc
Apr 18, 2009, 4:34 PM
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NEW INFO************* Rumney - Peregrine Falcons have taken up residence on the Summit Cliff. The entire Summit Cliff (including “Flea Surgeon” and “Northwest Passage”), as well as the Asylum Cliff to climbers’ left and the Monolith to climbers’ right) are temporarily closed to climbing. All other crags, including the Main Cliff near Buffalo Road are OPEN. Cathedral Ledge -Peregrine Falcons have taken up residence on the northern end of Cathedral Ledge. Routes from climbers' right of "Cathedral Roof" to climbers' left of "Diedre" (including "Repentence" and "Remission") are temporarily closed to climbing. All other areas on the cliff remain OPEN. Your cooperation is essential if these birds are to nest successfully. Peregrines are protected by both Federal and State laws. - Chris Chris Martin, Senior Biologist, Conservation Department New Hampshire Audubon, 3 Silk Farm Road, Concord, NH 03301
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iching
Jun 23, 2009, 1:54 AM
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jakedatc, Is this an appropriate closure that will be lifted two weeks after the young have fledged, or an arbitrary closure that extends until August first needed or not?
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jakedatc
Jun 23, 2009, 2:12 AM
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appropriate. They generally have a few nests every year at either Summit or Main Cliff. They close it around the same time every year then find out exactly where they are and only keep the occupied cliffs closed. It's been pretty successful and it doesn't really impact the climbing all that much. especially when they nest at Summit cliff.. but even main cliff can be avoided for a few months (i don't like main cliff anyway so i'm never concerned) They will update the signs at the message board and on the trails when the closure is lifted.
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iching
Jun 23, 2009, 2:29 PM
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jakedatc, Are the closures being monitored and lifted TWO WEEKS AFTER THE YOUNG HAVE FLEDGED THE NEST which would address the biologic need, or are the they being maintained through an arbitrary time period say (February 15 through July 31) regardless of biological need?
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jakedatc
Jun 23, 2009, 2:45 PM
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iching wrote: jakedatc, Are the closures being monitored and lifted TWO WEEKS AFTER THE YOUNG HAVE FLEDGED THE NEST which would address the biologic need, or are the they being maintained through an arbitrary time period say (February 15 through July 31) regardless of biological need? I said they are monitored... read above more carefully
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iching
Jun 24, 2009, 3:46 AM
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Do the closures open TWO WEEKS after they young fledge?
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jakedatc
Jun 24, 2009, 3:51 AM
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iching wrote: Do the closures open TWO WEEKS after they young fledge? Call up the access fund.. i don't know what the fuck you're asking anymore. They CLOSE when the birds move IN.. the OPEN when the birds grow up and move OUT.. gaddamn you're either really picky about what you want to hear or dumb as shit
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iching
Jun 24, 2009, 4:59 AM
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Note to Land Managers monitoring this site: When you are being grilled by your climbing publics on closure policies, If you have worked in partnership with the Access Fund (www.accessfund.org) and cooperation with your local climbers in establishing the policies that affect climbers in good faith, End of discussion.
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jakedatc
Jun 24, 2009, 5:12 AM
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iching wrote: Note to Land Managers monitoring this site: When you are being grilled by your climbing publics on closure policies, If you have worked in partnership with the Access Fund (www.accessfund.org) and cooperation with your local climbers in establishing the policies that affect climbers in good faith, End of discussion. Now i really want to know what the FUCk you are talking about?? you are making no sense at all. I can't even tell if you're ok or not ok with the closure or even know where Rumney is This closure has been going on for YEARS and has been VERY well respected by ALL Rumney climbers. I've never heard of someone violating it or even having issue with it. The Perigrines are awesome to see up flying around and all the climbers i know love to see them and are never bothered by the closure. It's accepted and respected that is all.
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