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camhead
Apr 29, 2009, 4:11 PM
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desertwanderer81 wrote: reno wrote: There's a reason nobody has mentioned them. I avoid the south like a plague because I'm racist against southerners. Why don't you like those areas?
reno never said he did not like the areas. he simply said that there was a reason that nobody mentioned them.
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desertwanderer81
Apr 29, 2009, 4:32 PM
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and?
super secrit spy stuff?
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potreroed
Apr 29, 2009, 5:00 PM
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clausti wrote: you know, i didn't answer about most underrated crag the first time, but I've been thinking about it. i think all the stuff around jackson hole is pretty killer. i didn't really get to spend enough time there.
You mean the Tetons? They're OK if you don't mind having to hike at least 1 mile for every pitch you climb.
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clausti
Apr 29, 2009, 5:44 PM
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potreroed wrote: clausti wrote: you know, i didn't answer about most underrated crag the first time, but I've been thinking about it. i think all the stuff around jackson hole is pretty killer. i didn't really get to spend enough time there. You mean the Tetons? They're OK if you don't mind having to hike at least 1 mile for every pitch you climb.
but it's so beautiful.
also, there was some good roadside clipups, i forget what it's called. i lost a fleece there...
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angry
Apr 29, 2009, 5:54 PM
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clausti wrote: potreroed wrote: clausti wrote: you know, i didn't answer about most underrated crag the first time, but I've been thinking about it. i think all the stuff around jackson hole is pretty killer. i didn't really get to spend enough time there. You mean the Tetons? They're OK if you don't mind having to hike at least 1 mile for every pitch you climb. but it's so beautiful. also, there was some good roadside clipups, i forget what it's called. i lost a fleece there...
I found that, I smell it every night before I go to bed.
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camhead
Apr 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
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angry wrote: clausti wrote: potreroed wrote: clausti wrote: you know, i didn't answer about most underrated crag the first time, but I've been thinking about it. i think all the stuff around jackson hole is pretty killer. i didn't really get to spend enough time there. You mean the Tetons? They're OK if you don't mind having to hike at least 1 mile for every pitch you climb. but it's so beautiful. also, there was some good roadside clipups, i forget what it's called. i lost a fleece there... I found that, I smell it every night before I go to bed.
*camhead shitz pants in rage and sabotages angry's mini trax!*
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Johnny_Fang
Apr 29, 2009, 6:09 PM
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clausti wrote: shut the fuck up.
those areas are hardly secrets, i guess unless you live in ohio, but whatever. i live in the northwest now so i couldn't give two shits. enjoy the crowdz!
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reno
Apr 29, 2009, 6:13 PM
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desertwanderer81 wrote: and? super secrit spy stuff?
Yep.
Or, maybe, folks don't want the whole dang climbing world showing up and learning how good some of these "lesser mentioned" crags are.
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clausti
Apr 29, 2009, 6:23 PM
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reno wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: and? super secrit spy stuff? Yep. Or, maybe, folks don't want the whole dang climbing world showing up and learning how good some of these "lesser mentioned" crags are.
or maybe there is a lot of climbing in the southeast that is private land, with privately owned and/or very limited parking, and/or privately owned access trails.
now, what the heck is the name of that roadside clipup crag in jackson? i remember it looked like a short approach, but then it was steep and very switchbacked. i went there with a scoutmaster who answered my bulletin board ad at the american alpine club place...
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Johnny_Fang
Apr 29, 2009, 6:55 PM
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alright then, king's bluff is totally underrated. chossy limestone, route placards, privately owned, plenty of parking, and a cliff that reaches all the way to 40 feet in some places!
and, in reality, it's one of my favorite places because the people there are so welcoming, friendly, and easy to talk with. they'll even share super-secret development crag information with you, and there are hardly any egos or sense of entitlement or ownership. the climbing isn't great but the scene is super chill.
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climbsomething
Apr 29, 2009, 7:04 PM
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camhead wrote: I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Shelf Road. The place is incredible; way better than the Obed or Twall. Everyone should go there.
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petsfed
Apr 29, 2009, 7:31 PM
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clausti wrote: reno wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: and? super secrit spy stuff? Yep. Or, maybe, folks don't want the whole dang climbing world showing up and learning how good some of these "lesser mentioned" crags are. or maybe there is a lot of climbing in the southeast that is private land, with privately owned and/or very limited parking, and/or privately owned access trails. now, what the heck is the name of that roadside clipup crag in jackson? i remember it looked like a short approach, but then it was steep and very switchbacked. i went there with a scoutmaster who answered my bulletin board ad at the american alpine club place...
Rodeo wall or Hoback Shield?
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clausti
Apr 29, 2009, 7:48 PM
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petsfed wrote: clausti wrote: reno wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: and? super secrit spy stuff? Yep. Or, maybe, folks don't want the whole dang climbing world showing up and learning how good some of these "lesser mentioned" crags are. or maybe there is a lot of climbing in the southeast that is private land, with privately owned and/or very limited parking, and/or privately owned access trails. now, what the heck is the name of that roadside clipup crag in jackson? i remember it looked like a short approach, but then it was steep and very switchbacked. i went there with a scoutmaster who answered my bulletin board ad at the american alpine club place... Rodeo wall or Hoback Shield?
rodeo wall sounds familiar.
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AntinJ
Apr 29, 2009, 8:03 PM
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I'm heading to Ragged Mt. for the first time tomorrow. So you're saying I'm destined for a good time?
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jt512
Apr 29, 2009, 8:16 PM
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desertwanderer81 wrote: kachoong wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: reno wrote: There's a reason nobody has mentioned them. I avoid the south like a plague because I'm racist against southerners. Why don't you like those areas? What do you have against Aussies?  Never trust someone who's upside down!
Yeah. How hard can "climbing" be on that side of the planet, anyway?
Jay
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desertwanderer81
Apr 29, 2009, 8:25 PM
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jt512 wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: kachoong wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: reno wrote: There's a reason nobody has mentioned them. I avoid the south like a plague because I'm racist against southerners. Why don't you like those areas? What do you have against Aussies? Never trust someone who's upside down! Yeah. How hard can "climbing" be on that side of the planet, anyway? Jay
Yeah!! "rock falling" is more like it! Imagine how stupidly easy climbing would be if you could just fall to the top of your climbs!
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kachoong
Apr 29, 2009, 8:28 PM
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desertwanderer81 wrote: jt512 wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: kachoong wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: reno wrote: There's a reason nobody has mentioned them. I avoid the south like a plague because I'm racist against southerners. Why don't you like those areas? What do you have against Aussies? Never trust someone who's upside down! Yeah. How hard can "climbing" be on that side of the planet, anyway? Jay Yeah!! "rock falling" is more like it! Imagine how stupidly easy climbing would be if you could just fall to the top of your climbs!
Well at least the crags are Downunder Rated!!
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reno
Apr 29, 2009, 9:00 PM
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kachoong wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: jt512 wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: kachoong wrote: desertwanderer81 wrote: reno wrote: There's a reason nobody has mentioned them. I avoid the south like a plague because I'm racist against southerners. Why don't you like those areas? What do you have against Aussies? Never trust someone who's upside down! Yeah. How hard can "climbing" be on that side of the planet, anyway? Jay Yeah!! "rock falling" is more like it! Imagine how stupidly easy climbing would be if you could just fall to the top of your climbs! Well at least the crags are Downunder Rated!!
*groan*
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dynosore
Apr 29, 2009, 9:12 PM
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I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I like long moderate routes, and was very not impressed with RRG. Lots of people, humid, single pitch boringness. Anywhere in the Sierra high country is underrated, awesome long routes, dreamy granite, and great weather. If you think Yos. is too busy or overated, get out of the Valley. I loved Vedauwoo too, what a humbling place  . The best underrated crag is my secret crag in N. Ontario. 250-300 ft. routes, and every climb is an FA on solid granite. No, you can't come along.
PS JTree does indeed suck.
(This post was edited by dynosore on Apr 29, 2009, 9:15 PM)
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rockandlice
May 2, 2009, 12:01 PM
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clausti wrote: rodeo wall sounds familiar.
Rodeo is just south of town, holds about a dozen clip-ups roadside, and is meh at best.
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shorty
May 2, 2009, 4:38 PM
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camhead wrote: I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Shelf Road. The place is incredible; way better than the Obed or Twall. Everyone should go there.
Upon further reflection, I must admit that Shelf is grossly over rated. Adding to the list of P.O.S. choss piles, encased in bird doo, overrun by gym "trained" wannabe's, over bolted, chipped, lichen covered, greasy chalked-up holds, mosquito infested, poison ivy lined, loose flakes, grungy bottoming cracks, poor-excuse-for-a-route crags:
Anything roughly resembling rock in the following general region:
- west of Kansas and east of Utah
- south of Wyoming and north of New Mexico
You got it folks, COLORADO. The whole state sucks canal water. Big time. There is no decent climbing anywhere in that state. Not now, not in the past, not ever.
My advice, get the $*%&# out of the state as soon as possible, never return, and leave the piss-poor local bastards the "honor" of grovelling in their own excrement.
This public service announcement has been brought to you by the Save Our Climbing In Florida association.
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rcmoose
May 2, 2009, 4:56 PM
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Most under-rated - east side of the Sierras & Indian Creek
(Disclosure - I am an Indian Creek fan/specialist who lives in Chicago)
The quantity & quality of the routes along the east side of the Sierras is outstanding & the area is vast enough that crowds are not an issue.
Indian Creek has an atmosphere & scenery that are not to be found anywhere else I have been.
With the addition of new walls/routes & the vastness of Indian Creek canyon, crowds are not really an issue and beginners have some places to climb.
The Moab area also has Mill Creek & desert towers plus a ton of rest day activities.
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