...and, that was enough, I couldn't wait to get the hell out of school.
34 years later, I find my dual career in mech engineering and Guitar/music teaching nicely gratifying.
this is a very interesting thread, for me. several year ago i came up with what i call "The Hierarchy of Internet Stupidity" graded by interactive site type (of those I frequent).
about the dumbest sites, are those revolving simply around cars. motorcycles are a close second. guitarist sites havea somewhat higher intellectual level, but of all, climbing sites have, generally the highest level of intellectualism and thoughtful discourse.
I think climbing, by its intense focus on problem solving, tends to draw in the brainacs.
(This post was edited by robbovius on May 6, 2009, 1:11 PM)
I have an Associates in Electronics Engineering, after which I went on an extended 5 year climbing tour where I supported my habit by doing construction work. My boss allowed me to come and go as I please, for as long as I wanted, and guaranteed me work whenever I went home.
I met my wife to be after a three month trip to Chamonix, and settled into finish work, then making custom kitchen cabinets, and finally spent 15 years designing and building custom furniture in my one man shop.
Three years ago I took a position teaching Outdoor Ed at an alternative high school just so I could deal with people on a daily basis. The last two years I have taught Building Trades and Cabinetmaking & Millwork, and have acquired my NH teaching certification.
While I never worked in electronics, I use engineering skills every day.
Bachelor of Music in cello performance. Now i'm thinking about going back to school for geological engineering or something similar.
I think you've got to pick geologist or civil engineer. Or do both.
I should have taken more geology.
I've got a BS in Civil engineering, a BS in mechanical engineering, I am a registered engineer in a few states. We call ourselves structural engineers. We do design buildings, but we do a lot of geotechnical related engineering design, like retaining walls. All of that is CE stuff.
Does this mean you're a Professional Engineer? Not many engineers in the states bother with that, getting you're P.Eng (PE in the states) seems much more important in Canada.
I've got to get on it an do up my application, it's just writing an essay on my work experiance in terms of engineering principals is kind of a daunting task for a manufacturing grunt like myself.
PE's are pretty much required for civils. Well you don't HAVE to have it, but it's almost impossible to advance in your career without it.
Oh, and I THINK he's saying he is a PE/SE. Which is a bit beyond just the regular PE. Some states require you to have a SE to design certain larger, critical structures. A Geotechnical Engineering lisence is likewise required to design certain things in certain states like the foundations for hospitals, etc.
I have an Associates in Electronics Engineering, after which I went on an extended 5 year climbing tour where I supported my habit by doing construction work. My boss allowed me to come and go as I please, for as long as I wanted, and guaranteed me work whenever I went home.
I met my wife to be after a three month trip to Chamonix, and settled into finish work, then making custom kitchen cabinets, and finally spent 15 years designing and building custom furniture in my one man shop.
Three years ago I took a position teaching Outdoor Ed at an alternative high school just so I could deal with people on a daily basis. The last two years I have taught Building Trades and Cabinetmaking & Millwork, and have acquired my NH teaching certification.
While I never worked in electronics, I use engineering skills every day.
Bachelor of Music in cello performance. Now i'm thinking about going back to school for geological engineering or something similar.
I think you've got to pick geologist or civil engineer. Or do both.
I should have taken more geology.
I've got a BS in Civil engineering, a BS in mechanical engineering, I am a registered engineer in a few states. We call ourselves structural engineers. We do design buildings, but we do a lot of geotechnical related engineering design, like retaining walls. All of that is CE stuff.
Does this mean you're a Professional Engineer? Not many engineers in the states bother with that, getting you're P.Eng (PE in the states) seems much more important in Canada.
I've got to get on it an do up my application, it's just writing an essay on my work experiance in terms of engineering principals is kind of a daunting task for a manufacturing grunt like myself.
yep. If you do work that has something to do with a building code you will get registered. So if you're a CE it's a big deal, for ME and EE it's not as much, sure the HVAC and plumbing and wiring ME and EEs get registered.
But if you work for a manufacturer I don't think you need to at all. I'd bet GM has some PE but mostly I think that is just one-ups-manship.
Oh, heh. You already responded. Yeah.... companies like Boeing, etc have a token PE here and there to randomly stamp drawings for major projects.... but that's mostly just for garnish as it's not actually required by the gov.
Anyhow, what kind of geotechnical work do you do other than RW's? Being a full time dirt geek, I'm quite the fan of the discipline ;) Did you back door your way into geotechnical engineering, or did you start on a drill rig and work your way from there?
I think its a fairly recent program, but Colorado School of Mines and a handful of other universities have a geological engineering degree. Based on the curriculum, it does sound more or less like a CE and geology double major. I'm looking at it from a minerals exploration and greenfields mine standpoint.
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atg200 wrote:
Bachelor of Music in cello performance. Now i'm thinking about going back to school for geological engineering or something similar.
I think you've got to pick geologist or civil engineer. Or do both.
I should have taken more geology.
I've got a BS in Civil engineering, a BS in mechanical engineering, I am a registered engineer in a few states. We call ourselves structural engineers. We do design buildings, but we do a lot of geotechnical related engineering design, like retaining walls. All of that is CE stuff.
It'd be nice to NOT have to take the Water and waste water part of CE and the Highway design part of CE if you didn't have too. A school of mines might just be the place to throw those two sections away. Good idea. Plus they got to have a class on blasting and that'd be cool.
I don't know, I have found that learning about other disciplines has greatly aided me in my work. It's useful to understand highway design when designing a bridge. Likewise if you're designing the geotechnical aspects of a landfill, it's useful to understand the enviromental aspects of what you're doing.
I think its a fairly recent program, but Colorado School of Mines and a handful of other universities have a geological engineering degree. Based on the curriculum, it does sound more or less like a CE and geology double major. I'm looking at it from a minerals exploration and greenfields mine standpoint.
imnotclever wrote:
atg200 wrote:
Bachelor of Music in cello performance. Now i'm thinking about going back to school for geological engineering or something similar.
I think you've got to pick geologist or civil engineer. Or do both.
I should have taken more geology.
I've got a BS in Civil engineering, a BS in mechanical engineering, I am a registered engineer in a few states. We call ourselves structural engineers. We do design buildings, but we do a lot of geotechnical related engineering design, like retaining walls. All of that is CE stuff.
It'd be nice to NOT have to take the Water and waste water part of CE and the Highway design part of CE if you didn't have too. A school of mines might just be the place to throw those two sections away. Good idea. Plus they got to have a class on blasting and that'd be cool.
I don't know, I have found that learning about other disciplines has greatly aided me in my work. It's useful to understand highway design when designing a bridge. Likewise if you're designing the geotechnical aspects of a landfill, it's useful to understand the enviromental aspects of what you're doing.
It all comes together ;)
yeah, er watch that old David Attenbourough show "COnnections" on PBS? everything is interconnected. everything.
Anyhow, what kind of geotechnical work do you do other than RW's?
here's what I've been dealing with today, some in design some getting built and dealing with changes and questions. - helical pier foundation - sheet pile RW - concrete falsework and re-shoring for a post tensioned building - Soil nailed wall - Rail road bridge roll-in: They build the bridge off on the side and set it on rollers. I do the structure the rollers sit on. That has pile bearing stuff and p-y stuff. Also with this job I'm making a bridge for them to drive their cranes on to do the work from.
I think that there is a HUGE spectrum that "graduate degree/graduate degree in progress" covers. Should have broken it down a bit into grad student, MA/MS, PhD. And hell, what about MD, Law degrees, MBAs, etc. etc. etc.?
Anyhow, what kind of geotechnical work do you do other than RW's?
here's what I've been dealing with today, some in design some getting built and dealing with changes and questions. - helical pier foundation - sheet pile RW - concrete falsework and re-shoring for a post tensioned building - Soil nailed wall - Rail road bridge roll-in: They build the bridge off on the side and set it on rollers. I do the structure the rollers sit on. That has pile bearing stuff and p-y stuff. Also with this job I'm making a bridge for them to drive their cranes on to do the work from.
too much work.
Nice, I've done work with all of those (cept the railroad stuff)
I double majored in Exercise Physiology and Coaching/Athletics Administration. But I went to Chico State so I have a minor in alcohol imbibement.
Heh. I went to Ball State. Excessive Alcohol Consumption was a de facto minor... or was it Major?... for graduates. After all, we did graduate David Letterman.
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Ran track pro for a couple years (sprinter)
100? 200? 4x100? Yes to the above?
I was an 800 runner in high school, but couldn't make the jump to the college level. I considered the 800 to be a "short distance run", while the guys in college considered it to be a "long sprint." Big difference, that.
Specialized in the 200 and third leg of the 4x1. Love that curve!! Not tall enough to be ranked higher than 52nd in the world in the 200m. Us short guys just don't have the stride for a 200.
Much respect for anyone willing to subject themselves to the 800. I was forced to compete in that one meet for Chico for training purposes. Holy crap that was the worst 2:02 of my life. Most painful race ever. I'm surprised I only puked after and not during the last 200m kick!
Bachelor of Music in cello performance. Now i'm thinking about going back to school for geological engineering or something similar.
I think you've got to pick geologist or civil engineer. Or do both.
I should have taken more geology.
I've got a BS in Civil engineering, a BS in mechanical engineering, I am a registered engineer in a few states. We call ourselves structural engineers. We do design buildings, but we do a lot of geotechnical related engineering design, like retaining walls. All of that is CE stuff.
Does this mean you're a Professional Engineer? Not many engineers in the states bother with that, getting you're P.Eng (PE in the states) seems much more important in Canada.
I've got to get on it an do up my application, it's just writing an essay on my work experiance in terms of engineering principals is kind of a daunting task for a manufacturing grunt like myself.
yep. If you do work that has something to do with a building code you will get registered. So if you're a CE it's a big deal, for ME and EE it's not as much, sure the HVAC and plumbing and wiring ME and EEs get registered.
But if you work for a manufacturer I don't think you need to at all. I'd bet GM has some PE but mostly I think that is just one-ups-manship.
Thing is I'd like toget out of the manufacturing sector (pounding concrete floors is no good for a girl who's had a broken pelvis), so getting my P.Eng would be very usefull if I tried to get a job in consulting.
Specialized in the 200 and third leg of the 4x1. Love that curve!! Not tall enough to be ranked higher than 52nd in the world in the 200m. Us short guys just don't have the stride for a 200.
It usually took me 200m to get up to speed. I never had that explosive, fast-twitch fiber speed to be a sprinter.
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Much respect for anyone willing to subject themselves to the 800. I was forced to compete in that one meet for Chico for training purposes. Holy crap that was the worst 2:02 of my life. Most painful race ever. I'm surprised I only puked after and not during the last 200m kick!
I managed a 1:56 (school record) in the state regional, and ended up 5th. Those guys from Gary and Elkhart were FAST. But yeah... puking at the end was the norm.
Yeah my 2:02 was second from last. At Chico our distance crew was amazing. Had 4 guys under 1:50, including back to back to back collegiate nat'l champs, all different guys, all the same age. They competed that close. We usually finished between 2nd-5th at nationals because Abilene Christian had that African exchange student connection for sprinters. Bastards.
The one that always cracks me up is the BFA which just begs to be called a Bachelor of Fuck All (I have lots of friends with BFA's with paying jobs as teachers and curators as well as entrepreneurs in crafts so offense meant).
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