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slhappy
Nov 27, 2002, 5:07 AM
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is provia still the goods when it come to chromes. has anything knocked it from its throne...what about a good c-41 b&w film...kodak...ilford...??
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sushislayer
Nov 27, 2002, 6:34 AM
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c-41 b&w's suck. Any chrome from Fuji is good I like Provia for people and Sensia too. If you want serious color saturation Velvia is still king but doesn't work for people too well.
A warming filter (81-a,b,c) would go a long ways too - helps with the tones, especially if you shoot any time near midday.
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pushfurther
Nov 27, 2002, 6:46 AM
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do not waste money on c-41 b&w. it is just black and white film for color processing. doesn't do real black and white justice. they'll actually turn out brown and white. i use kodak t-max b&w. i like the grain structure.
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eric
Nov 27, 2002, 6:51 AM
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> c-41 b&w's suck
No they don't. I haven't shot it in a long time, but I've had excellent results from Ilford XP2. You will get sepia toned if they're processed as color. Done right they're kinda neat, but most people need not bother.
E6 - Never liked Provia. Prefer Astia for people, Velvia for everything else. I shoot Fuji exclusively for E6.
You might find this article helpful.
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peanutbutterandjelly
Nov 27, 2002, 6:33 PM
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I like the Ilford XP2 C-41 B&W film. You will get a sepia effect with most C-41 B&W film if printed onto color paper. When I shoot C-41 B&W I print it on B&W paper. This gives me true black and white images faster then shooting true black and white film.
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krillen
Nov 27, 2002, 6:50 PM
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If you are looking for cost-effectiveness C-41 B&W is the way to go, but everyone I've talked to that has gone that route, including myself, has eventually turned to true B&W.
C-41 B&Ws printed on true B&W paper looks better than printed on colour paper, but if you are doing that then you might as well shoto true B&W.
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peanutbutterandjelly
Nov 27, 2002, 10:14 PM
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The main advantage of shooting C41 B&W and printing it on B&W paper over shooting regulat B&W film is time. I can get my C41 shot prints back in an hour and to my clients the same day. With true B&W film I have to wait at least 4 hours, often a day or two till I get the prints back.
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pushfurther
Nov 27, 2002, 10:52 PM
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if i was a client and you used c41 b&w you would get no return business from me or any of my friends.
spend the extra money and time for true b&w. it's worth it. trust me.
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eric
Nov 28, 2002, 5:01 AM
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> if i was a client and you used c41 b&w
> you would get no return business from
> me or any of my friends.
Uh. Somehow I don't think that's an issue here, eh.
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slhappy
Nov 29, 2002, 2:57 AM
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i like the look and feel of tri-x and velvia is hands down the tops for landscapes and doesn't hurt to be warmed up a bit. Just getting a feel for the field and gain some knowlegde off of my fellow shutterbugs on belay. Thanks!
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pushfurther
Nov 29, 2002, 3:36 AM
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don't care if it is an issue here.
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