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geronimo,

As a group, boulderers have the biggest balls. That is why we are often stuck so close to the ground.

Curt


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Between Sport climbers and Trad climbers... I beleive Trad lead climbers to have bigger balls. It is much more dangerous, plus you have to place your own gear... and that can take time and engery and adds more weight.

Sport climbers may have more finger strength and be able to climb at higher grades... and maybe even faster than trad climbers.

That's all well and good, but still, trad climbers have to know more and be stronger. If you're leading on bolts (sport) and take a fall... who cares. If you're 60ft up and have clipped into 6 bolts, even if a couple come out, you're gonna be fine. If you're leading trad (placing your nuts, cams, hexs, etc.), you never know for sure if your placement will hold you when you fall. Sometimes you are placing gear and you KNOW it will not hold, but still,somehow, it feels better having placed somthing.

Freud


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haha....I like curts answer......but i'm going to have to say that climbing in general is a fairly ballsy sport with Trad being at the top of the heap.


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haha....I like curts answer......but i'm going to have to say that climbing in general is a fairly ballsy sport with Trad being at the top of the heap.


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You people make me sick. Fu*k all of you! Why do people find a need to compare yourselfs to others?

Vy can't ve chust climb!


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Two different copies of this thread.. both in the trad climbing forum... hmmm....
twice the pointless arguing I guess.


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Actually I think Boulderings have the biggest balls, they seem to be the ones allways having sex.


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Beyond Gravity, surely that would deplete the content, thus reducing the size of the balls in question.

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I would have to say sports climbers not because of anything to do with climbing, but rather the s--- someone takes anytime they put up bolts you gotta have balls to do it.


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climbing a route with preplaced quickdraws; thats like indoor leadclimbing. Hanging by one arm 100 meters up a cliff with the wind blowing and trying to place a nut in an awkward crack...

i think trad climbers got the real balls


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stupid topic.


trad climbers. however, they are all part of the holy trinity. be born again, praise be to the sport, the trad, and the holy bouldering.

amen.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=20656&forum=32&22


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The way the sport is going? It sucks!!!! Because there are too many damn people. I wish this whole "extreme" thing going on, especially in the media, would stop. I am sick of crowds everywhere. It seems you can never just "get away" anymore. Now there are lines for routes, over flowed camping sites, restrictions, etc., just because people want to "be extreme." Hopefully, the fad of climbing will die and return to how it was in the past; quiet, peaceful, and friendly people.
Ronnie


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guys like the Hubers and Caldwell are taking the sport to the next level, and slack-lining will evolve to high lines with no harness or saftey.


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Slacklining?

-Jay


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The evolution of climbing? I've seen quite a bit in 23 years. I remember when Fires (precursor to Boreal) came out. In fact, I was working in Yosemite when they recieved the first shipment to the U.S. and I got a pair. Woooowww!!! Everyone thought that things would get easier. Well, a few did (technology is funny that way), but standards just rose higher. Now we have these itsy, bitsy camming units, so are aid routes gonna get easier. My God, I hope so!! At any rate, some aid gun will just use 'em to get up the faintest of the faintest seams at A6. Sure there's evolution. It comes with a price---more folks at the crags, 98% are usually really cool; standards soaring at an alarming rate, which causes age old boasting of "Lookee what I did". People's attitudes have evolved also. How many people soloing hard routes 15 years ago. Seems there are many more nowadays. The ability to focus and simply try new routes is still paramount with many. Nothing ever stays the same. Some things fall back, some surge ahead, but nothing stays the same. I think it should be this way. Whew, that's more than my two cents worth.


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