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Mastertater
Jun 19, 2009, 2:51 AM
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I cannot identify the piece with a red runner. I am trying to start building more of a rack and I actually saw the piece of gear in question. In the picture, there appears to be three cams but one is a different device. I have never seen one sold and have not seen one online. The rest of the gear is pretty odd to me. Instead of typical nuts or hexes, there are cylinder like stoppers.
It is hard to see in the picture but I cannot enlarge it.
Thanks in advance.
http://images.craigslist.org/3n63ma3l1ZZZZZZZZZ96c0a07034883f9183c.jpg
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yodadave
Jun 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
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Its a Kong frog express a kind of autolocking draw.
I can't see the stoppers your asking about very well.
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Mastertater
Jun 19, 2009, 3:12 AM
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Yeah, it is a pretty shoddy picture. The stoppers are basically cylinders with three or four raised rings around them.
Anyways, thanks for the reply
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moose_droppings
Jun 19, 2009, 3:26 AM
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Mastertater wrote: Yeah, it is a pretty shoddy picture. The stoppers are basically cylinders with three or four raised rings around them.
Copperheads maybe, I can't see them very well either.
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bill413
Jun 19, 2009, 3:27 AM
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Mastertater wrote: I cannot identify the piece with a red runner. I am trying to start building more of a rack and I actually saw the piece of gear in question. In the picture, there appears to be three cams but one is a different device. I have never seen one sold and have not seen one online. The rest of the gear is pretty odd to me. Instead of typical nuts or hexes, there are cylinder like stoppers. It is hard to see in the picture but I cannot enlarge it. Thanks in advance. 
It looks to me like those cylinders are on a single wire.
It also looks to me like most of the things, except the frog, are older gear.
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Mastertater
Jun 19, 2009, 3:41 AM
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Yes, they are copperheads. I was able to identify them. Are there any pros to using them versus nuts? I have never seen them so I am assuming they are possibly outdated.
Edit: Never mind. You hammer these in. Makes sense to me now.
(This post was edited by Mastertater on Jun 19, 2009, 3:43 AM)
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bill413
Jun 19, 2009, 3:49 AM
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Mastertater wrote: Yes, they are copperheads. I was able to identify them. Are there any pros to using them versus nuts? I have never seen them so I am assuming they are possibly outdated. Edit: Never mind. You hammer these in. Makes sense to me now.
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rtwilli4
Jun 19, 2009, 4:50 AM
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yodadave wrote: Its a Kong frog express a kind of autolocking draw. I can't see the stoppers your asking about very well.
What the hell is up with those things anyways... they always seemed so stupid to me. Has anyone actually used them?
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coolcat83
Jun 19, 2009, 5:12 AM
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bill413 wrote: Mastertater wrote: Yes, they are copperheads. I was able to identify them. Are there any pros to using them versus nuts? I have never seen them so I am assuming they are possibly outdated. Edit: Never mind. You hammer these in. Makes sense to me now. N.P. - I think copperheads/aluminumheads are body weight, not fall rated.
they are for pounding into seams for aid climbing
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wiki
Jun 21, 2009, 6:23 AM
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rtwilli4 wrote: yodadave wrote: Its a Kong frog express a kind of autolocking draw. I can't see the stoppers your asking about very well. What the hell is up with those things anyways... they always seemed so stupid to me. Has anyone actually used them?
Fantastic for stick-clips... Or if you are accurate - throw a loaded frog at the first clip* 
*no animals were harmed in the making of this post
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rtwilli4
Jun 21, 2009, 10:40 PM
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wiki wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: yodadave wrote: Its a Kong frog express a kind of autolocking draw. I can't see the stoppers your asking about very well. What the hell is up with those things anyways... they always seemed so stupid to me. Has anyone actually used them? Fantastic for stick-clips... Or if you are accurate - throw a loaded frog at the first clip* *no animals were harmed in the making of this post
ahh the stick clip. How could I forget? An essential part of any climber's rack.
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bill413
Jun 22, 2009, 1:14 AM
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rtwilli4 wrote: ahh the stick clip. How could I forget? An essential part of any climber's rack.
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wiki
Jun 22, 2009, 1:45 AM
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rtwilli4 wrote: wiki wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: yodadave wrote: Its a Kong frog express a kind of autolocking draw. I can't see the stoppers your asking about very well. What the hell is up with those things anyways... they always seemed so stupid to me. Has anyone actually used them? Fantastic for stick-clips... Or if you are accurate - throw a loaded frog at the first clip* *no animals were harmed in the making of this post ahh the stick clip. How could I forget? An essential part of any climber's rack.
When you are as much of a chicken as me... yeah 
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rockclimber919
Jul 6, 2009, 7:00 AM
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some of those larger nuts/copperhead looking things look like some old dmm alloy offsets, with the raised edges. could be wrong
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vegastradguy
Jul 6, 2009, 9:32 PM
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bill413 wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: ahh the stick clip. How could I forget? An essential part of any climber's rack. That's how I get my toprope up there.
i have friends who have a stick clip long enough to clip the chains out at Cannibal in Red Rock. Very amusing to watch....
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shimanilami
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bill413 wrote: Mastertater wrote: Yes, they are copperheads. I was able to identify them. Are there any pros to using them versus nuts? I have never seen them so I am assuming they are possibly outdated. Edit: Never mind. You hammer these in. Makes sense to me now. N.P. - I think copperheads/aluminumheads are body weight, not fall rated.
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