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nswelton
Aug 3, 2009, 5:52 AM
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i think these things suck. they walk like crazy, especially from hand size and up. i have a bunch of them that i got years back when i was a student and was trying to build up an indian creek rack. i wish i'd just dropped the extra cash and bought the right stuff to begin with. they also don't have a big range (each individual cam).
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ryanb
Aug 3, 2009, 6:08 AM
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When they first came out and were like 20 bucks a cam I belayed a friend who pulled two of the first gen u stems in a single fall...we think the u stem levered them out of pods which would have been an issue with any u stem cam.
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lithiummetalman
Aug 3, 2009, 6:47 AM
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I have fallen on Rock Empire Robot cams
sizes
.4 dark blue
.5 red
1 grey
2 yellow
3 blue
A good cam placement is a good cam placement, the Robots work, they hold.
I've blown the yellow one out once, but that was completely my fault due to poor placement = decent whip (40ft)
Honestly when it comes to a crux piece, I would say 75% of the time I grab the rock empires first over BD's (for small sizes, it's usually metolius master cams or tcus)
I like the camming angle...yes they may lack the range and refinement of the BD's but I like how they feel in one's hand, love the trigger (great for those with small hands)...however, I think the camming angle of these gems are fantastic....has a solid bite-feel when placed IMHO
The #4 orange and # 5 black do work, but sling them long, haven't fallen on those sizes....yet
Only drawbacks I think, is the weight of the set overall.
Note: I've been using mine for the last 4 years
(This post was edited by lithiummetalman on Aug 3, 2009, 6:53 AM)
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wallwombat
Aug 5, 2009, 8:31 AM
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I have taken falls on Rock Empire cams. They are fine
I have also fallen on Wild Country Forged Friends, WC Technical Friends, old Camalots, newer Camelots, C4s, Metolious cams, DMM Quadcams, Trango cams, HB Flex Cams, a weird Cassin cam that I got on sale, a Russian copy of a forged friend and more recently a Ukrainian made cam.
They were all fine.
Some were finer than others but they were all fine.
Anytime I have had a cam blow, it has been more to do with a dodgy placement, than the cam itself.
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joeforte
Aug 5, 2009, 10:37 AM
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Yes, I have fallen on RE cams, and yes they work! The large ones walk easily, so you have to pay extra attention to your placement. The small-medium ones are gems, and work just as good as any other small cam I've used. They are less elegant, and less shiny, but they can really take a beating, especially the single stems units!
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evanwish
Aug 5, 2009, 4:21 PM
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i found a 30 foot boulder with a bad landing and set out to lead it. it started out on a slab for 15 feet, then reached a roof and shoved in a blind placement of a .25 Durango, pulled the roof and fell.
basically twenty feet off the ground, and above the smallest RE cam placed blindly as my only peice of pro and i trusted it.
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kennoyce
Aug 5, 2009, 4:39 PM
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Wow, nice thread revival, 6.5 years, that rocks.
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joeforte
Aug 6, 2009, 3:47 AM
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kennoyce wrote: Wow, nice thread revival, 6.5 years, that rocks.
Just like the cams, they just don't die!
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