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hi,everyone.
basically, i am not a rock climber.but i did tried rock climbing before.it was really fun.=)
However,as an architecture student here,i was recently told to design a rock climbing club house at a natural rock climbing spot.Well since ive only climbed for a few times, i believe i am still a noob to comment on everything compare to all of you here.=)So, i was wondering,other than having a good wall construction, i suppose there should also be some requirements for the club house.
As in,ive learned that rock climbing focuses alot on the foot strenght.Does that make rock climbers prefer a slightly softer flooring to lessen the stress before going onto their solid rock climbing experience?
Is there anyone can help me out here?IF i will to build a club house for rock climbing, what kind of requirement do you think you'll need for your activity and why?? I would really appreciates all your responses.=) Thankzzz in advance.=)

P/s: rock climbing is really tough!D=

Cheers.=)


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stripper poles


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Make the whole building out of cookie dough.


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=____________= stripper pole?lolxxx

cookie dough is cute.i guess u can eat them too when u lack of energy.lolz

anyway,anymore suggestions???i mean seriously.'w'lll


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This is actually an interesting question...I'll see if I can give you some random thoughts:

Green/sustainable/recycled building materials...lots of climbers dig that stuff.

Passive solar design...the place will mostly be used to escape the heat of the day or chill of the night, sudden rain storms etc. It should offer a cool in summer, warm in winter spot to drink beers with friends and share stories. The visitor center in zion national park is a great example of passive solar design...window shades that shade the windows in summer and thermally massive flooring that warms up in winter.

Communal food preparation/hangout area...lots of climbing areas have outdoor cooking shelters.

Camping and/or bunk rooms, gear storage lockers, food storage (bear boxes) if necessary.

For design ideas/insperation check out the old Civialan Concservation Corp (CCC) lodges in the US and the hut systems in the alps in europe.


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Illegal Narcotics. and hookers lots of hookers. I think a Bolt gun hanging on the wall would be sweet. Like the one in cliff hanger. Oh yea and a sign that says TRADTARDS KEEP OUT. On the front door.


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Illegal Narcotics. and hookers lots of hookers. I think a Bolt gun hanging on the wall would be sweet. Like the one in cliff hanger. Oh yea and a sign that says TRADSPORTARDS KEEP OUT. On the front door.

fixed that for yaWink


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Illegal Narcotics. and hookers lots of hookers. I think a Bolt gun hanging on the wall would be sweet. Like the one in cliff hanger. Oh yea and a sign that says TRADTARDS KEEP OUT. On the front door.
haha, yeah the one that punches in bolts like a nail gun? I don't quite think those are real...


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rujyouki wrote:
i was recently told to design a rock climbing club house at a natural rock climbing spot.Well since ive only climbed for a few times, i believe i am still a noob to comment on everything compare to all of you here.=)So, i was wondering,other than having a good wall construction, i suppose there should also be some requirements for the club house.

Does 'club house' mean a place for climbers to hang out near the crag, or a place for them to train? If it's the former, it depends on the type of climbing nearby. If you can clarify that, you might have a better shot at a real response.

Trad - porno and booze: Because of their hardened attitudes (read: grumpy old man-like attitudes), nobody really likes trad climbers enough to have sex with them. In fact, trad climbers don't even seem to like to be around themselves so they drown themselves in hard liquor and drink themselves away.

Sport - mirrors: Nobody really likes sport climbers either, but they do love themselves. As ego-centric narcissists, they need the mirrors to serve as constant reminders of how pretty they are and how awesome they are while they flex their muscles and slyly give their reflections the wink and the gun.

Boulderers - shiny things and hat racks... lots of hat racks: It's pretty unimportant whether anyone actually likes boulderers. They seem too high most of the time to properly register such external things. The shiny things satisfy their child-like short attention spans and ability to be easily amused with trivial things. The hat racks serve as a place for them to store their back-up toques/ beanies.

Alpine - don't bother: They're off somewhere in the middle of fucking nowhere, so what do they need a club house for? It'd probably just scare them or perhaps piss them off to run into more than one or two other living people at a time anyway.


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Are you looking to design a place to hang out or a place to climb? Or, both?


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Yea, they are real. SSShhh oh dont forget the beer fridge. I second the stripper pole. We also need a storage room for the kids something like 6ft by 6ft and soundproof I think a 6 by 6 room could hold about 20 or so kids.


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rujyouki wrote:
i was recently told to design a rock climbing club house at a natural rock climbing spot.Well since ive only climbed for a few times, i believe i am still a noob to comment on everything compare to all of you here.=)So, i was wondering,other than having a good wall construction, i suppose there should also be some requirements for the club house.

Does 'club house' mean a place for climbers to hang out near the crag, or a place for them to train? If it's the former, it depends on the type of climbing nearby. If you can clarify that, you might have a better shot at a real response.

Trad - porno and booze: Because of their hardened attitudes (read: grumpy old man-like attitudes), nobody really likes trad climbers enough to have sex with them. In fact, trad climbers don't even seem to like to be around themselves so they drown themselves in hard liquor and drink themselves away.

Sport - mirrors: Nobody really likes sport climbers either, but they do love themselves. As ego-centric narcissists, they need the mirrors to serve as constant reminders of how pretty they are and how awesome they are while they flex their muscles and slyly give their reflections the wink and the gun.

Boulderers - shiny things and hat racks... lots of hat racks: It's pretty unimportant whether anyone actually likes boulderers. They seem too high most of the time to properly register such external things. The shiny things satisfy their child-like short attention spans and ability to be easily amused with trivial things. The hat racks serve as a place for them to store their back-up toques/ beanies.

Alpine - don't bother: They're off somewhere in the middle of fucking nowhere, so what do they need a club house for? It'd probably just scare them or perhaps piss them off to run into more than one or two other living people at a time anyway.

I vote for best post ever. I love this one.


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rujyouki wrote:
hi,everyone.
basically, i am not a rock climber.but i did tried rock climbing before.it was really fun.=)
However,as an architecture student here,i was recently told to design a rock climbing club house at a natural rock climbing spot.Well since ive only climbed for a few times, i believe i am still a noob to comment on everything compare to all of you here.=)So, i was wondering,other than having a good wall construction, i suppose there should also be some requirements for the club house.
As in,ive learned that rock climbing focuses alot on the foot strenght.Does that make rock climbers prefer a slightly softer flooring to lessen the stress before going onto their solid rock climbing experience?
Is there anyone can help me out here?IF i will to build a club house for rock climbing, what kind of requirement do you think you'll need for your activity and why?? I would really appreciates all your responses.=) Thankzzz in advance.=)

P/s: rock climbing is really tough!D=

Cheers.=)

Well, from some of the responses, clearly ventilation is a must.

A place to dry stuff for when we get caught in the rain.

At least one section should have high (read 2 story) ceiling, so that a simple training wall can be put up. Or, if the construction is stone, that will do.

And, MOST IMPORTANT:
Gibbs, N.C.I.S. wrote:
A password. A clubhouse needs a good password.


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ryanb wrote:
This is actually an interesting question...I'll see if I can give you some random thoughts:

Green/sustainable/recycled building materials...lots of climbers dig that stuff.

Passive solar design...the place will mostly be used to escape the heat of the day or chill of the night, sudden rain storms etc. It should offer a cool in summer, warm in winter spot to drink beers with friends and share stories. The visitor center in zion national park is a great example of passive solar design...window shades that shade the windows in summer and thermally massive flooring that warms up in winter.

Communal food preparation/hangout area...lots of climbing areas have outdoor cooking shelters.

Camping and/or bunk rooms, gear storage lockers, food storage (bear boxes) if necessary.

For design ideas/insperation check out the old Civialan Concservation Corp (CCC) lodges in the US and the hut systems in the alps in europe.

agreed on everything. also add floors that can handle dirt/mud and are easy to clean.. think Honda Element.. only nobody wants plastic floors in a house.


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unless they had springs in them and doubled as a trampoline


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The purpose of this clubhouse is completely unclear to me. It would help a great deal to have more understanding of the use of the structure.


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Needs a kitchen for making ham sammies. (for real, it needs a kitchen). Needs a place to securely store your gear, needs a spot for drying gear. Needs a bathroom and shower. Needs an outdoor shower just for fun.

Needs lots of bookshelves for guidebooks, wireless internet. Needs a big fireplace.

Needs bunk room to accomodate overnight stays.


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Crash-pad sumo room

Free wireless

Crag dog pee pole

Taps of beer in the kitchen

50" Plasma screen for watching re-runs of Dukes of Hazard between sends

A leprechaun re-soler sitting in the basement with piles of straw

Guestbook with a large "Notes" section

Fireplace

Outhouse with a view


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rujyouki wrote:
=____________= stripper pole?lolxxx

cookie dough is cute.i guess u can eat them too when u lack of energy.lolz

anyway,anymore suggestions???i mean seriously.'w'lll

whatever you do, make sure the place you design has spaces after it's punctuation


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Something like this would be a good start...




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acorneau wrote:
Something like this would be a good start...


I wouldn't propose that; you might end up dead in a lake.


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I'm getting the idea that the OP is not studying in the US. We don't really "have" clubhouses here. Welll....there's the Bivy in the Daks, and Miquels. And there was the Gordon Ranch.... But the closest thing we have here for "climber's clubhouse" would probably be one of the AAC deals.

Still, this is a fun thread. And if it were MY HoneyComb Hideout, I'd have:
- Convenient location for access to climbing
- A policy that if you can't pay cash to stay, you need to do something to contribute(artwork, gardening, masonry. woodworking etc. The place would pretty much start out as....well, an empty plot. And go ground up).
- A firepit for social hour
- A vegetable garden in season
- A Main community building, and separate bunk houses. Bunk houses are designated 24-Hour Quiet Zones - If you ain't sleeping, don't be in there. A couple of Love Shack bunkhouses, of course.
- A natural swimming hole
- Showers, but one should have to either pay for or contribute in another way for the showers. Swimming hole is included for free though
- A piano, kept in tune
- A bouldering wall built on the inside of the community building, for crap weather days
- A good ole dog who loves everyone, and everyone loves. Dog haters not welcome at the HoneyComb Hideout.
- A couple of cats, too
- Storage lockers, located in a safe place
- A shuttle bus to go to the cliffs/nearby town
- A big clothes washing bin and drying line, and maybe a pay-for washer/dryer for the softees
- A small general store with sundry items


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happiegrrrl wrote:
I'm getting the idea that the OP is not studying in the US. We don't really "have" clubhouses here. Welll....there's the Bivy in the Daks, and Miquels. And there was the Gordon Ranch.... But the closest thing we have here for "climber's clubhouse" would probably be one of the AAC deals.

Still, this is a fun thread. And if it were MY HoneyComb Hideout, I'd have:
- Convenient location for access to climbing
- A policy that if you can't pay cash to stay, you need to do something to contribute(artwork, gardening, masonry. woodworking etc. The place would pretty much start out as....well, an empty plot. And go ground up).
- A firepit for social hour
- A vegetable garden in season
- A Main community building, and separate bunk houses. Bunk houses are designated 24-Hour Quiet Zones - If you ain't sleeping, don't be in there. A couple of Love Shack bunkhouses, of course.
- A natural swimming hole
- Showers, but one should have to either pay for or contribute in another way for the showers. Swimming hole is included for free though
- A piano, kept in tune
- A bouldering wall built on the inside of the community building, for crap weather days
- A good ole dog who loves everyone, and everyone loves. Dog haters not welcome at the HoneyComb Hideout.
- A couple of cats, too
- Storage lockers, located in a safe place
- A shuttle bus to go to the cliffs/nearby town
- A big clothes washing bin and drying line, and maybe a pay-for washer/dryer for the softees
- A small general store with sundry items

This club house is turning into a Utopian society... just add a little sustenance farming, kennel for the dog owners(read that how you'd like), and place a nice espresso machine inside the main building.


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ryanb wrote:
This is actually an interesting question...I'll see if I can give you some random thoughts:

Green/sustainable/recycled building materials...lots of climbers dig that stuff.

Passive solar design...the place will mostly be used to escape the heat of the day or chill of the night, sudden rain storms etc. It should offer a cool in summer, warm in winter spot to drink beers with friends and share stories. The visitor center in zion national park is a great example of passive solar design...window shades that shade the windows in summer and thermally massive flooring that warms up in winter.

Communal food preparation/hangout area...lots of climbing areas have outdoor cooking shelters.

Camping and/or bunk rooms, gear storage lockers, food storage (bear boxes) if necessary.

For design ideas/insperation check out the old Civialan Concservation Corp (CCC) lodges in the US and the hut systems in the alps in europe.


i actually think that this post is really helpful about the greenery concern-ed ,to be close to nature idea.and so far all the responses have something to do with a nice relaxing place where the rock climbers can chill together and talk about their experiences,right??=D and basically u need very well ventilated area,not using dry air-conditioners,but still keeps you warm yet cool depending on the seasons.



In reply to kriso9tails , boymeetsrock & shockabuku:

Im sorry, i didnt clarify it in more details.
well, here how it goes.
the climbing place is actually natural existed.a hill with lots of natural cave.It is called Batu caves,located in Malaysia.We are assigned to build a club house right inside the cave,a place to hang out as well as to relax or where you have your preparations done.=)
I am basically designing the building itself,not the facilities within..lol but i should be able to have a control in designing on the lighting, the temperature, the atmosphere, the ventilation, all the basic requirements a comfortable building should have.=) If there is any interesting add-on,i would really delighted to hear about it.=D
However, that cave is a tourists spot,there is quite alot of ppl keep coming around, from the posts i read, i think it came to rock climbers would probably prefered to be kept away from the people and noises,right?=D



so,
1.Green/sustainable/recycled building materials
2.clearly ventilated
3.plastic floor-a no'no'
4.dry and clean floor with no mud/dirt/easy to clean
5.quite and away from unessary buzzling
6.perfect plc to relax with beer ,eating and story sharing
7.keep you warm and safe
8...etc?



in reply to andersjr:
what do you mean by they had springs in them and doubled as a trampoline?0_O in the floor??
why do u need them?0_O?


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