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TheProducer


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Hey, I was just wondering has any one tried this/think it'll work. say your bouldering up a straight cliff, could you put a cam in the crack and use a quickdraw and clip the cam onto your harnesses and it'll work as a holder for you so you can rest and go higher? i dont know just something i thought of! BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!


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With proper placement skills a cam will hold your static weight, ie. it will hold a fall to Wink.
My question is why would you? Either go for it and take a fall if you fail, or toprope it till your confident. The holy grail of climbing is the free ascent, and the best expression of that is the flash, why hang and ruin that?


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your completely right! only problem is i dont have enough equipment yet to top rope it or get a crash pad. if i had a crash pad i would defiantly just free climb high as hell. but i also thought it would be cool to be able to take a breather up the cliff you know? just clip in a cam and rest a bit then continue haha.


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maybe you invented a new sport?

if I were you I'd call it cam climbing


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Goddammit Mike, isn't printing off the complete webster dictionary doing it for you anymore? Or did sweaty librarian find you out?
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TheProducer wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering has any one tried this/think it'll work. say your bouldering up a straight cliff, could you put a cam in the crack and use a quickdraw and clip the cam onto your harnesses and it'll work as a holder for you so you can rest and go higher? i dont know just something i thought of! BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!

That is a great idea Mr. Troll.


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TheProducer wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering has any one tried this/think it'll work. say your bouldering up a straight cliff, could you put a cam in the crack and use a quickdraw and clip the cam onto your harnesses and it'll work as a holder for you so you can rest and go higher? i dont know just something i thought of! BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!

The likelihood of disaster in this endeavor approaches unity.


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well since you'd want to do more than one route you'll need a set of cams, biners, slings....or with less money you could get a rope, slings, some lockers, and a crash pad.


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TheProducer wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering has any one tried this/think it'll work. say your bouldering up a straight cliff, could you put a cam in the crack and use a quickdraw and clip the cam onto your harnesses and it'll work as a holder for you so you can rest and go higher? i dont know just something i thought of! BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!

Pretty bad idea. Here's why.

You have to know how to place gear. It's not rocket surgery, but you shouldn't go trusting your life to a piece of gear you don't know how to use.

It's one piece of gear. It's pretty foolish to trust your life to a single piece of gear.

Unless it's a splitter, you don't know what size cam you're going to need. So buying a single cam won't help you very much.

Unless the piece is set perfectly, it's going to move when you weight it. Which could cause it to pop out. Any movement could cause it to shift and pop out. It might be ok while you're hanging, but as you stand to get ready to climb, it could pop out.

Because you're using a quickdraw, if you fall, you're going to put very high forces on the piece. The reason we can fall on trad gear is that the dynamic climbing rope stretches and "absorbs" some of the force. The draw isn't going to do the same, and you could generate enough force to break the piece or rip it out of the wall.

Maybe it'll be fine the first couple of times, because you're being very careful about setting, weighting, and climbing past. But at some point, you're gonna be pumped, gonna put in a crappy placement, start climbing without unclipping... and the result is not going to be pretty.

Invest in a pad or buy a TR kit.


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So you want to boulder wearing a harness? Why not just wait until you have the experience and balls to climb it without the cam?


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TheProducer wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering has any one tried this/think it'll work. say your bouldering up a straight cliff, could you put a cam in the crack and use a quickdraw and clip the cam onto your harnesses and it'll work as a holder for you so you can rest and go higher? i dont know just something i thought of! BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!


Let me guess, you told your parents you are a climber and they went out and bought you a cam for X-mas.


And no, I wouldn't try this. If that cam isn't placed correctly, you could diePiratePirate


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I've seen several climbers, no doubt more experienced than you, pull gear by resting on it. The problem is basically that you'll end up weighting the piece at waist height, which will lever it up, and then fair odds its gonna pop.

So, now, instead of falling with some measure of control, you're flying back first and out of control toward the ground.

Save the 60 bucks your gonna spend on a cam, and you're half way to a pad, or boulder with some friends who have one already...


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Colinhoglund wrote:
With proper placement skills a cam will hold your static weight, ie. it will hold a fall to Wink.
My question is why would you? Either go for it and take a fall if you fail, or toprope it till your confident. The holy grail of climbing is the free ascent, and the best expression of that is the flash onsite, why hang and ruin that?

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dugl33 wrote:
Save the 60 bucks your gonna spend on a cam, and you're half way to a pad, or boulder with some friends who have one already...

+1 - offer to drive, spot, bring along some munchies or a few brews, don't be a jerk, and the most you'll need to get you going is a decent pair of shoes and some chalk.


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You are either an idiot or a troll.


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shimanilami wrote:
You are either an idiot or a troll.

Don't rule out the possibility that he's both.


TheProducer


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you guessed wrong dumbass


TheProducer


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Thanks for the few good responses and no thanks to all the negative comments/responses.


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TheProducer wrote:
Thanks for the few good responses and no thanks to all the negative comments/responses.

What part of:
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BRING ON THE FEED BACK!!!!

were you unclear on?


qtm's response was tremendous.
The "negative comments" were pretty reasonable for the question...and pretty tame.


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shimanilami wrote:
You are either an idiot or a troll.

I think he's a genius: he just invented multi-pitch bouldering!


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TheProducer wrote:
you guessed wrong dumbass



dude if you're going to go bouldering w/ a cam, you're the dumbass


shockabuku


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TheProducer wrote:
Thanks for the few good responses and no thanks to all the negative comments/responses.

You're welcome.


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dugl33 wrote:
I've seen several climbers, no doubt more experienced than you, pull gear by resting on it. The problem is basically that you'll end up weighting the piece at waist height, which will lever it up, and then fair odds its gonna pop.

So, now, instead of falling with some measure of control, you're flying back first and out of control toward the ground.

Save the 60 bucks your gonna spend on a cam, and you're half way to a pad, or boulder with some friends who have one already...

I have also witnessed people trying to rest on gear, and instead popped the piece because they pulled outward on it accidentally. I think resting on gear is a bad idea. You're better off trying to climb it out, and if you do end up falling, the piece will be more likely to hold because the pull will be in the correct direction (down).


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I would advise against it.


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Cheap harness- $40
Two lockers- $16
Draw or sling- $4
One cam- $60

Total- $120

Cheap Crash pad- $110

Using you're money on the correct gear- Priceless


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