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amylouis3is3
Apr 14, 2010, 2:53 AM
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eXisTanCe!!!
caN yOu FeeL it???
I OwN 9 AcRes oF Land 13 mInuTes from THE GUNKS
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-have plenty of cushy places to put a tent
-a small tree house to fit 2 sleeping bags
-a large above ground pool
-a nice fire pit in a star-lit open field
-a pre-poured foundation waiting to become a chill spot
-swings, chickens, a dog, and a couple of awesome children!
Well... I want to open a campground and super chill place for climbers
to gather after a day of climbing the Gunks.
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This is a call to anyone who wants to chill here and kick off the vibe by setting up your tent hear on the land as is...
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I have set things up here so far with this dream in mind-
I have done run out of loot bringing it this far.
If there are any climbers out there who already have all the climbing
gear anyone can possibly need and still have a bit of cash left over ...
how about investing it in something as cool as this...
not much more is needed...
a simple bathroom, shower, and some sort of roof structure over the foundation...
and
eXistaCe
can begin to really happen!
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jakedatc
Apr 14, 2010, 3:04 AM
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amylouis3is3 wrote: eXisTanCe!!! caN yOu FeeL it??? I OwN 9 AcRes oF Land 13 mInuTes from THE GUNKS ... -have plenty of cushy places to put a tent -a small tree house to fit 2 sleeping bags -a large above ground pool -a nice fire pit in a star-lit open field -a pre-poured foundation waiting to become a chill spot -swings, chickens, a dog, and a couple of awesome children! Well... I want to open a campground and super chill place for climbers to gather after a day of climbing the Gunks. ... This is a call to anyone who wants to chill here and kick off the vibe by setting up your tent hear on the land as is... --- I have set things up here so far with this dream in mind- I have done run out of loot bringing it this far. If there are any climbers out there who already have all the climbing gear anyone can possibly need and still have a bit of cash left over ... how about investing it in something as cool as this... not much more is needed... a simple bathroom, shower, and some sort of roof structure over the foundation... and eXistaCe can begin to really happen!
nice.. poorly spelled and awful grammar spam.
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kobaz
Apr 14, 2010, 3:06 AM
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Climbers are cheap bastards... good luck. I know I hate paying for camping.
Edited to add: If it will be pay camping... there better be food and showers.
(This post was edited by kobaz on Apr 14, 2010, 3:08 AM)
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amylouis3is3
Apr 14, 2010, 3:23 AM
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WOW!!!
good thing I never ran into either of you out there on the cliffs...
grammar, money, demands for food,,,
climbers who obviously DON'T GET IT!!!
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jakedatc
Apr 14, 2010, 3:50 AM
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amylouis3is3 wrote: WOW!!! good thing I never ran into either of you out there on the cliffs... grammar, money, demands for food,,, climbers who obviously DON'T GET IT!!! ...
The gunks have 2 well known and well used free camping areas.
then there is Miguels at the red which is like the gold standard of camping areas IMO.. $2 per night and amenities up the freaking wazoo
And yes.. grammar does matter when you are trying to advertise and sell your business. Why should someone invest in you when you can't write in a professional and coherent manner?
yea i don't get it at all..  One less customer and one that will tell folks not to go there either.
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granite_grrl
Apr 14, 2010, 12:45 PM
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Sorry, you haven't sold me. You need something more than promises to attract people. You have to sell yourself a lot better if you want to attract people in an area that has decent free camping options already.
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olderic
Apr 14, 2010, 1:55 PM
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As soon as you begin or even look into the legal process you will "get more" then you ever bargined for.
News flash - Woodstock was over with 40+ years ago.
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shoo
Apr 14, 2010, 1:59 PM
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Sooooo you're trying to compete with 2 campgrounds which are much closer to the climbing, have basically the same facilities (minus the pool and chickens, I guess), and are free?
Sounds like your heart is in it, but you should really have something more to offer if your campground has even a remote chance of success.
All the best luck!
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j_ung
Apr 14, 2010, 2:03 PM
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Sounds like a nice place to chill. If I was headed Gunks-ways, I'd take you up on the offer.
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kobaz
Apr 14, 2010, 2:37 PM
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amylouis3is3 wrote: WOW!!! good thing I never ran into either of you out there on the cliffs... grammar, money, demands for food,,, climbers who obviously DON'T GET IT!!! ...
I never said I wouldn't go... I was just making suggestions as to what should be available. You already covered one of the items: showers.
Grammar and presentation are very important... let's say you were driving down the highway and were looking for a place to eat. You drive by two billboards, one says "Great food, low prices, we'll make anything you want!". The billboard has nice pleasing colors and has great overall aesthetics.
You pass by another billboard, the paper is falling down, it's faded, and you can barely make out the words "eats here, food good, no rats".
Those are the only two places in the area... which one would you go to?
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johnwesely
Apr 14, 2010, 2:46 PM
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kobaz wrote: You pass by another billboard, the paper is falling down, it's faded, and you can barely make out the words "eats here, food good, no rats". Those are the only two places in the area... which one would you go to?
Obviously, I would go to the place with not rats.
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Adk
Apr 14, 2010, 3:07 PM
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Amy....or honestly what ever your name is.....
We need a phone number to call you!!!!
A PM is not good enough.
I like the idea that you have and 13 minutes is not too far to travel. Do we have to deal with dog poop?
JK.
Hope this takes off for you.
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camhead
Apr 14, 2010, 3:10 PM
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To the naysayers here: you know damn well that camping at both free places in the Gunks sucks ass, and fills up very quickly. Just the fact that this alleged new place would be able to fill up your nalgenes gives it a one up on the other "free" camping.
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blueeyedclimber
Apr 14, 2010, 3:24 PM
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Amy,
I'm interested. Don't pay attention to Jake. HE goes to the Gunks, like twice a year. He's also cranky  .
Other people have mentioned the two FREE camping areas, but frankly, both of them suck. They're free and close to the climbing, though, so I don't complain.
Now, if you are looking for investors, then I am not your person, but if a new camping area presented itself, I might stay there depending on the following:
1. Proximity. You already said it's 13 minutes away. Not bad. (THis wouldn't be what was formerly known as Tuthill town, is it?)
2. Price. Remember, you are competing against FREE campgrounds.
3. Quietness. I don't know about other climbers, but I want to get my sleep and be rested to climb the next day. Also, is it set back far enough from the road, that you are not hearing cars all night.
4. SHowers. You mentioned those, but I just want make clear that if I am going to pay, then there should be showers.
5. I like camping in fields and waking up and seeing all the stars, although trees do give a little more privacy. Is there an option for either?
Josh
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mr.tastycakes
Apr 14, 2010, 3:37 PM
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If you get showers and potable water i'd pay a couple bucks to camp there. The free camping is alright for the price, but the proximity of the road, the overcrowding, the noise (when it's not my campsite making it), and the lack of amenities really suck.
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boymeetsrock
Apr 14, 2010, 3:56 PM
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Yes, give us some more info. I'd be happy to spread the good word.
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johnwesely
Apr 14, 2010, 4:03 PM
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boymeetsrock wrote: Yes, give us some more info. I'd be happy to spread the good word.
It probably wouldn't make sense anyways.
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ckirkwood9
Apr 14, 2010, 4:08 PM
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if this is real, i'd be down with it.... nicer than sleeping in the back of my suby, and the fire is a nice touch, as is a random pup or 2. :)
how do we get in touch with you to plan a stay? PM? email? text message?
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ckirkwood9
Apr 14, 2010, 4:10 PM
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blueeyedclimber wrote: Amy, (THis wouldn't be what was formerly known as Tuthill town, is it?) Josh
That would be AWESOME ~ I miss that place. Cool peeps, a toilet and showers, a river to jump in, good breakfast/coffee in the morning. AHHHH the yesteryears.
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camhead
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jakedatc wrote: then there is Miguels at the red which is like the gold standard of camping areas IMO.. $2 per night and amenities up the freaking wazoo
Ok, I'm going to take this analogy further, since I'm a bit more familiar with the Red (even though I certainly don't think of Miguel's as the "gold standard.").
Miguel's is able to charge so cheaply for camping because a) he makes all his money selling pizza, and 2) the showers are not free. Even the wireless internet used to be pay, but I believe it just went free this year.
Lago Linda, another campground at the Red, has a concrete floored, covered common cooking area, with water spigots right there. You have the choice of camping under another covered area if it is really rainy, of camping in a huge grassy area, or of claiming your own site. Showers and internet are free. There are established quiet hours, and the trash/sanitation is managed very well. $5/night, and I have never heard anyone complain about this price.
If the campground at the Gunks was to offer things along these lines (a covered kitchen area and free showers would be most important, I believe), $5/night would be perfect, and I guarantee that plenty of folks would choose it over the Multiple Use Area (or MUA, as in what Axl Rose yells; "MUA! I wanna hear you scream!) or Camp Slime.
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jakedatc
Apr 14, 2010, 4:20 PM
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ok maybe if she would put together some sort of explanation that made fucking sense then it would be more appealing. but
DUDE Camp GUnKx 4 relz i need money stuff.. LOUD NOISES!! I LOve LamP?
see.. delivery.. it could be an awesome place but it comes off as something i wouldn't even want to go look at.
reminds me of when D-Acres at rumney kept spamming cars every day with fliers and i will never support them or recommend their place ever.
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jakedatc wrote: reminds me of when D-Acres at rumney kept spamming cars every day with fliers and i will never support them or recommend their place ever.
Neither would I, but that hardly applies here.
I personally love Camp Slime. In fact, that is where I always stay, due to the history, proximity, and my general laziness. If people get too loud there, mob rules tend to quiet them rather quickly.
I have never stayed at the MUA, nor will I. If I have to drive from the Gunks, then I want more than the MUA offers.
It sounds like the OP might have a nice alternative. I do agree that to entice climbers, many of the above listed ideas are key.
While I don't think points for style regarding posts are a deal-breaker, I do somewhat think that the more professional approach of proofreading and then hitting the "post reply" button would make the majority of the naysayers go away.
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joeforte
Apr 14, 2010, 4:48 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with the grammar in her post... it was her sHiFt kEy that went haywire! Otherwise, every sentence is understandable, unless maybe you're a sport weenie used to translating the spray of urban climber... then I could see how you'd get confused.
Anyway, I'd pay a few bucks to camp there... Showers, water, and peace are worth it.
The MUA sucks bigtime. It is the biggest drag about the gunks. Way too crowded, loud, one filthy portapotty, no water, prone to theft, full of partying SUNY kids that don't even climb... etc.
Post up some info. I think you'll have people stopping in for a place to crash. I think you could get 5 bucks a head, or you could try the donation route just to get things started.
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jakedatc
Apr 14, 2010, 5:14 PM
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joeforte wrote: I don't see anything wrong with the grammar in her post... it was her sHiFt kEy that went haywire! Otherwise, every sentence is understandable, unless maybe you're a sport weenie used to translating the spray of urban climber... then I could see how you'd get confused.
In reply to: I have done run out of loot bringing it this far.
that's what i want to hear first about a business is that they are out of cash and sound like they quit school after 2nd grade. Having a single post about an idea on RC doesn't exactly make it a legit place yet. no prices, location, contact info, pictures.
So i guess my point is less grammatical and more organization and presentation.
I personally like Slime and have not had that many issues with MUA
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wonderwoman
Apr 14, 2010, 6:31 PM
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I'd stay there as long as it's quiet and I don't have to set my tent up on top of somebody else. A shower and toilet would also be nice.
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