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curvenut
May 20, 2010, 11:14 PM
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Hi,
The cable on my ATC is completely worn.
I am finding a way to change that cable.
Do you have any advice or did something similar ?
The problem I have is to find a way to attach/ glue the cable to the atc ...So far I cannot see any solution.
I known a belay device is only 10$ or less. But it had some sentimental value since that is my first ever belay device !
Thanks for help
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Rudmin
May 20, 2010, 11:23 PM
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curvenut wrote: Hi, The cable on my ATC is completely worn. I am finding a way to change that cable. Do you have any advice or did something similar ? I known a belay device is only 10$ or less. But it had some sentimental value since that is my first ever belay device ! Thanks for help
The cable doesn't really do much important except keep the belay device attached to something and stop it from sliding too far on the rope. You could probably drill out the old cable and sodder or epoxy in a new one. If you don't have the tools it will cost you much more than $10. And it's also unsafe to modify climbing equipment and you will die.
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desertwanderer81
May 20, 2010, 11:24 PM
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I've seen ATC's with just a bit of cordellette to replace the cable. Really, the only reason why it's there is to keep your ATC close to your harness by not allowing it to travel up your rope as you're belaying.
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desertwanderer81
May 20, 2010, 11:25 PM
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Rudmin wrote: curvenut wrote: Hi, The cable on my ATC is completely worn. I am finding a way to change that cable. Do you have any advice or did something similar ? I known a belay device is only 10$ or less. But it had some sentimental value since that is my first ever belay device ! Thanks for help The cable doesn't really do much important except keep the belay device attached to something and stop it from sliding too far on the rope. You could probably drill out the old cable and sodder or epoxy in a new one. If you don't have the tools it will cost you much more than $10. And it's also unsafe to modify climbing equipment and you will die.
INSTANTLY
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curvenut
May 20, 2010, 11:45 PM
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I just post an image of the ATC I have :
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summerprophet
May 20, 2010, 11:49 PM
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Drill out the swaged holes with a drill.
Replace cable with 3 or 4mm cord.
If you are feeling real fancy, you can run the cord through some small diameter flexible hose.
TIP: dip the cord ends in glue before tying the knots to ensure they never come undone.
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shockabuku
May 21, 2010, 12:02 AM
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How the heck do you wear out the cable before the device is worn out?
And that's not an ATC up there^^^.
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Mechboy
May 21, 2010, 1:38 AM
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put the sentimental atc with your pictures and baby book.. spend the $10 and live
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acorneau
May 21, 2010, 1:43 AM
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shockabuku wrote: And that's not an ATC up there^^^.
That's what she said.
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curvenut
May 21, 2010, 2:02 AM
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shockabuku wrote: How the heck do you wear out the cable before the device is worn out? And that's not an ATC up there^^^.
The cable is worn out at the connection with the ATC. I guess because the cable is not of good quality , about 2/3 of the cable string are broken.
ATC, is a generic name for belay device here in our area . Wild Country call it a Variable controller...
http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/.../VariableController/
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dugl33
May 21, 2010, 2:04 AM
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Your best option is to hang it from your rearview mirror next to your fuzzy dice and buy a new one.
If you really must try and fix it and want a shot at sincere advice post some real pics of the device in question, showing the cable damage as well as how the cable connects to the device.
There's probably some sort of brazed connection and therefore it's not easily repaired. You can certainly try and drill out the cable but at what point has your bungled repair job made the device less than trustworthy?
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altelis
May 21, 2010, 2:13 AM
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don't worry about it. at all.
if you are worried about the cable breaking while carrying it clipped to a biner, just clip the biner through the slot the rope goes through instead of through the cable. May not work with some biners. No refunds.
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curvenut
May 21, 2010, 2:28 AM
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dugl33 wrote: Your best option is to hang it from your rearview mirror next to your fuzzy dice and buy a new one. If you really must try and fix it and want a shot at sincere advice post some real pics of the device in question, showing the cable damage as well as how the cable connects to the device. There's probably some sort of brazed connection and therefore it's not easily repaired. You can certainly try and drill out the cable but at what point has your bungled repair job made the device less than trustworthy?
Here are some images :
On this side of the cable, I reiforce the base of the cable with some epoxy but it is not ideal.
[URL=http://img202.imageshack.us/i/atccable1.jpg/]
On this other side of the cable, the cable's string are broken, no idea why ..
[URL=http://img265.imageshack.us/i/atccable2.jpg/]
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patto
May 21, 2010, 3:51 AM
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I eagerly await the next thread where somebody want to restitch his harness because of sentimental reasons! 
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clc
May 21, 2010, 4:32 AM
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fuck dude that belay device is worn to shit. Buy a new one.
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ilikepargo
May 21, 2010, 5:16 AM
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Seems to me that ATC would make a fine and sentimental Christmas Tree ornament, while a new one would be inexpensive and possibly safer.
JMHO, of course.
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angry
May 21, 2010, 12:27 PM
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There are pretty much two ways to strip the plastic off a belay devices cable.
One is to load it weird so it gets rubbed off. Most belay devices have a hint of this.
The other is to be looking at your belay device and think, "I bet this would look sweet if I stripped the plastic off" and so you grab the pocket knife or a lighter.
So what I would do, especially considering yours is a rather flat device, is cut the cable off completely and store it in a chalk bag pocket as a spare.
Don't get sentimental over belay devices. My first device was a Tuber, I have no idea where it is. Maybe with an ex-girlfriend.
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dingus
May 21, 2010, 1:33 PM
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The metal on the edge of one of the slots isd worn to a fairly sharp edge too.
Throw it in the bottom of the gear bin dude. Get a new one.
You're going to go through several devices if you stick with this sport whether you Rube Goldberg this device or not.
DMT
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curvenut
May 25, 2010, 2:25 AM
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Thanks for all comments ...
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dr_feelgood
May 25, 2010, 3:13 AM
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angry wrote: Don't get sentimental over belay devices. My first device was a Tuber, I have no idea where it is. Maybe with an ex-girlfriend.
Did she trade you for a case of herpes?
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NEGuiding
May 26, 2010, 12:43 AM
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are you serious?  If the cable is worn what do you think is wrong or the condition with the actual device? Remember lives depend on it! It's 10-20 bucks for a new one, BUY ONE!
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bill413
May 26, 2010, 3:58 PM
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NEGuiding wrote: are you serious? If the cable is worn what do you think is wrong or the condition with the actual device? Remember lives depend on it! It's 10-20 bucks for a new one, BUY ONE!
Fail.
Cable is not structural, wear on it does not mean the device itself is worn.
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dingus
May 26, 2010, 4:14 PM
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bill413 wrote: NEGuiding wrote: are you serious? If the cable is worn what do you think is wrong or the condition with the actual device? Remember lives depend on it! It's 10-20 bucks for a new one, BUY ONE! Fail. Cable is not structural, wear on it does not mean the device itself is worn.
Fail? His advice, BUY A NEW DEVICE is spot on. And besides, the picture I saw, the device had apparent wear on it.
DMT
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patmay81
May 26, 2010, 5:01 PM
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I have several devices easily as worn if not worse than yours (not such sever cable damage though). They lurk at the bottom of the gear bin, or in the garage, or in the closet... I dunno, I may have thrown some away. Gear can't be sentimental, it just doesn't last. Its like getting all sentimental over your pet goldfish; its gonna die eventually.
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