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portercrock
Sep 25, 2010, 5:00 AM
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I am just starting to get a taste of sport climbing and am starting the process of looking for some draws. I have been looking at the Black Diamond Freewires which seem to be pretty good. My main concern is obviously safety over price but i am on a budget. What are the best/safest draws out there for the best price? should i go wire or straight/bent gate? i'm also leaning towards a draw with a thicker dogbone to prevent twisting. Thank you and safe climbing!
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bearbreeder
Sep 25, 2010, 5:16 AM
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all uiaa/ce certified draws are safe
look at
- price
- ease of clipping
- weight
the freewires are a good first set to buy ...
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sbaclimber
Sep 25, 2010, 6:16 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: all uiaa/ce certified draws are safe look at - price - ease of clipping - weight the freewires are a good first set to buy ...
<$11 for a BD draw is practically a steal! Any draws I have ever had the "pleasure" of using that were similar price or cheaper (e.g. OP Dirtbag) absolutely sucked.
Although I am not a fan of having a wiregate on the bolt end, it is a good choice for the rope end.
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eric_k
Sep 25, 2010, 6:25 AM
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The BEST draw I ever used was the new black diamond Livewire, I tried some a friend had, but at $25 a draw the are a little too expensive for me. Any draw sold at a climbing shop is going to be safe. Until you are pushing into the elite climbing grades and need every advantage possible, most any draw will do. Get what's affordable and go climbing and everything else will work itself out.
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granite_grrl
Sep 25, 2010, 12:52 PM
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The Freewire is a solid draw, both safety and performance wise. If you decide to upgrade later down the road the wire gates will be a lot more useful to you than having a bunch of spare bentgates.
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portercrock
Sep 25, 2010, 2:17 PM
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Thank You everyone this is just the info I needed!
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MS1
Sep 25, 2010, 2:31 PM
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portercrock wrote: I am just starting to get a taste of sport climbing and am starting the process of looking for some draws. I have been looking at the Black Diamond Freewires which seem to be pretty good. My main concern is obviously safety over price but i am on a budget. What are the best/safest draws out there for the best price? should i go wire or straight/bent gate? i'm also leaning towards a draw with a thicker dogbone to prevent twisting. Thank you and safe climbing!
My order of (non-price) priorities would be:
1. Keylock nose on bolt end.
2. Thick dogbone.
3. Wiregate on rope end, with reasonable gate clearance.
You might be able to find a good price mixing and matching dogbones and biners. The Camp Orbit nylon series seem pretty cheap and give you one and two. I haven't climbed on them so I can't offer a first hand account, however. I'll also second the Livewire rec, with the caveat that these are pretty damned expensive draws.
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cruxstacean
Sep 25, 2010, 3:05 PM
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I got my BD hotwire + positron draws for 10 each so if you look enough and are patient good deals are to be had
(This post was edited by cruxstacean on Sep 25, 2010, 3:06 PM)
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mattm
Sep 25, 2010, 6:13 PM
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cruxstacean wrote: I got my BD hotwire + positron draws for 10 each so if you look enough and are patient good deals are to be had
+1
I've seen the NEW Positron/Hotwire draws for $14 and change.
Thought it doesn't have the thick draw you won't have to worry about that till the harder grades and they are more useful in the trad/multi pitch arena.
It's worth the $3 to get the hotwires and positrons vs the nice but VERY plain quicksilver wires.
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clc
Sep 25, 2010, 9:38 PM
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I think most would agree that the petzl draws or BD livewrie are some of the best for sport climbing. But are more expensive
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cruxstacean
Sep 25, 2010, 10:28 PM
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mattm wrote: cruxstacean wrote: I got my BD hotwire + positron draws for 10 each so if you look enough and are patient good deals are to be had +1 I've seen the NEW Positron/Hotwire draws for $14 and change. Thought it doesn't have the thick draw you won't have to worry about that till the harder grades and they are more useful in the trad/multi pitch arena. It's worth the $3 to get the hotwires and positrons vs the nice but VERY plain quicksilver wires.
Hotwire draw w/Petzl dogbone = niceness
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portercrock
Sep 26, 2010, 12:09 AM
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Thanks again everybody these answer were just what i needed! fun and safe climbing to all!
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