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Carnage


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It doesnt get too cold around here, so the past few season's i've been able to get away with a softshell most of the time. it does however get pretty cold when the wind starts blowing.

I'm looking for a lightweight wind layer that i can carry with me on those cold days and throw on top of my softshell.

I went to REI this weekend and tried on some stuff, but i noticed they were all pretty tight even in a tshirt, especially in the forearm area.


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I have the Rab Quantum Windshirt, and sometimes wear it under my softshell.

http://www.prolitegear.com/..._quantumwindtop.html


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Patagonia 9 trails works well and stuffs into its only chest pocket for easy harness attachment
http://www.patagonia.com/...2-0-085&pcc=1128


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marmot trail wind, patagucci houdini, etc ...

whole bunch around ... the best deals are probably runner or cyclist jackets on clearance ... youlll find those at any athletic or outdoor store


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It sounds like you're looking for what in backpacking we call a 'wind shirt'. As others have said Patagonia, RAB, and Marmot make some good products that fit this bill.

One other manufacture you may want to look into is Montbell:

http://www.montbell.us/...s/list.php?cat_id=61



Another option I’ve used and love is from Anti-Gravity Gear:

http://www.antigravitygear.com/...ght-rain-jacket.html

It’s a non breathable sillnylon rain jacket. While it isn’t breathable but bocks the wind, is 100% waterproof, and is lightweight. The best thing is they will do custom sizes at no additional charge.

I hope this is helpful.


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the C.A.M.P. Magic Anorak is my favorite light shell- its lightly wind-resistant/water-resistant, weighs 3.4oz, has a hood, and will go over pretty much anything. i just leave it clipped to my harness and pull it out whenever i need an extra layer. $80 and well worth it.


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for my trip to tuolumne a few years ago i knew i would need something light (it was august) and windproof (for cathedral peak, for example); i found a mountain hardware windshirt for runners that is awesome...it's lighter than a t-shirt so it works great under a jacket on colder days

of course, my mountain hardware alchemy jacket is still the best thing i own


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Patagonia Houdini


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vegastradguy wrote:
the C.A.M.P. Magic Anorak is my favorite light shell- its lightly wind-resistant/water-resistant, weighs 3.4oz, has a hood, and will go over pretty much anything. i just leave it clipped to my harness and pull it out whenever i need an extra layer. $80 and well worth it.

How breathable is this?


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Patagonia houdini is being replaced by something, so all houdini's appear to be sold out, and there isnt a replacement yet.

Anyone have experience with http://www.montbell.us/...=61&p_id=2303170


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Carnage wrote:
Patagonia houdini is being replaced by something, so all houdini's appear to be sold out, and there isnt a replacement yet.

Anyone have experience with http://www.montbell.us/...=61&p_id=2303170
Houdinis will be back in the spring collection, they haven't been replaced


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Carnage wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
the C.A.M.P. Magic Anorak is my favorite light shell- its lightly wind-resistant/water-resistant, weighs 3.4oz, has a hood, and will go over pretty much anything. i just leave it clipped to my harness and pull it out whenever i need an extra layer. $80 and well worth it.

How breathable is this?

not very- i wouldnt use it if it were. i use it to retain bodyheat after a long pitch upon reaching a cold belay.


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vegastradguy wrote:
Carnage wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
the C.A.M.P. Magic Anorak is my favorite light shell- its lightly wind-resistant/water-resistant, weighs 3.4oz, has a hood, and will go over pretty much anything. i just leave it clipped to my harness and pull it out whenever i need an extra layer. $80 and well worth it.

How breathable is this?

not very- i wouldnt use it if it were. i use it to retain bodyheat after a long pitch upon reaching a cold belay.

I feel like this is really great and under-used advice. For days when working in the wind isn't cold but sitting is a non-breathable uber-lightweight wind shirt is this shit


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IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use


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bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.


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vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.

exactly. i use a windshirt meant for biking, but its SOOO thin and light, i've managed to shove it in a pocket of my pants w/o too much problem. way easier to carry, esp if not bringing a pack...


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vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.

OR helium ... 6 oz , fully waterproof with hood

Momtbell ex light 900 fill down, as warm as a micropuff ... 6 oz

i own and use both ...


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bearbreeder wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.

OR helium ... 6 oz , fully waterproof with hood

Momtbell ex light 900 fill down, as warm as a micropuff ... 6 oz

i own and use both ...
However those ultralight down jackets tend to become absolutely worthless, when they get wet.

I am probably not going to replace my syntethic for winter/ ice use, but for multipitch the wind jacket sounds like a good idea.
The problem is just to find one that is also waterproof, and that stays useable for more than just a few months. I once had one of those ultralight waterproof jackets, and it didnt stay waterproof for very long.

qwert


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if its gets that cold wet on multi with that little clothing, im bailing ... a windshirt wont keep you any warmer once the DWR gets overwhelmed ... which is also the same DWR as whats on the outside of a decent puffy

you need to renew the DWR on any wpb layer .. or at the very least stuff it in the dryer to reactivate it

a windshirt or softshell whose DWR wears out just soaks up water like anything else ...


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bearbreeder wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.

OR helium ... 6 oz , fully waterproof with hood

Momtbell ex light 900 fill down, as warm as a micropuff ... 6 oz

i own and use both ...

personally, if i need a puffy, i'm sport climbing, not climbing multi-pitch. the anorak is the perfect piece to keep clipped to my harness and augment my R1 hoody.


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I have the marmot driclime that I usually climb in I like it. It's a wind shirt with a real thin fleece lining.


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vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
vegastradguy wrote:
bearbreeder wrote:
IMO in that case yr better off then with a light puffy, down or syn, in those conditions

a windshirt is meant for active use

perhaps, but the anorak is 3.4oz and smaller than a baseball- much smaller than any puffy.

OR helium ... 6 oz , fully waterproof with hood

Momtbell ex light 900 fill down, as warm as a micropuff ... 6 oz

i own and use both ...

personally, if i need a puffy, i'm sport climbing, not climbing multi-pitch. the anorak is the perfect piece to keep clipped to my harness and augment my R1 hoody.
I keep a nanopuff clipped to my harness for cold multipitch belay in addition to my r1 hoody


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