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Buurin
Apr 25, 2011, 8:03 PM
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Anyone have any idea of the differences between a Gibbon jibline vs standard 2" tubular webbing?
I am looking for a trickline.
What I don't like about the Gibbon is it appears there is a ratchet sewn into their lines so I'd need to cut that off (I'm not into ratchets). Also the price is on the high end of any other kits.
Are there some benefits to the Gibbon that make the extra cost worthwhile? I am aware of the sewn in loop which is nice feature.
Also can you get their jibline without the ratchet?
Thanks
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justanotherclimber
Apr 25, 2011, 8:38 PM
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pretty sure Gibbon doesnt use tubular webbing.
Gibbons lines are polyester- which likely means its flat webbing, but i could be wrong.
you could always ask Gibbon- they're a pretty small outfit. i'm sure they'd be happy to help you.
they may even sell you a kit with no ratchet- which is not on the main line, btw- it comes separately, as i recall.
(This post was edited by justanotherclimber on Apr 25, 2011, 8:39 PM)
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sungam
Apr 26, 2011, 11:56 AM
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The jibline is flat (and very wide). It's a good trick line. What don't you like about the ratchet? It's way faster to set up.
I personally prefer webbing, cuz I wanna do some more highlines.
Edit to add: the actual differences. The jibline is way wider, like twice as wide, maybe more. It's has a little more bounce. It has a ratchet.
(This post was edited by sungam on Apr 26, 2011, 11:58 AM)
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Buurin
Apr 27, 2011, 8:01 AM
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You say its wider than 2 inch? I think you may have misread my post or I am way off. I was under the impression the jibline was 2 inches.
You prefer webbing? I also was under the impression the jibline is in fact webbing but perhaps not nylon.
I like the simplicity of carabiners as opposed to a ratchet.
The complexity of the ratchet makes it more prone to failure. I'm not suggesting they are unsafe, just that there are more parts to fail in a ratchets vs a carabiner.
I also don't like the weight hanging on the end of the line & in the case of it failing I'd rather have a carabiner flying at me than a ratchet.
To me, tightening is also easier and you can use multiple people if necessary.
I usually hitch a wooden dowel into my line to tighten which provides plenty of leverage. Cranking on a ratchet is slower in my experience.
As for speed of setup... You may be right that a ratchet is faster, but I'm skeptical of that :) Perhaps to a beginner due to the knots/hitches/line lockers involved with carabiners... but after a handful of times its pretty fast setup. I actually enjoy setting up lines, I don't want it to go by too quick :)
To each his own I suppose... I just don't like ratchets.
Thanks for the reply
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Buurin
Apr 27, 2011, 8:04 AM
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I went and touched a gibbon classic today.
I don't know its made of but it definitely felt different. I dont know if it was the material or construction or both.
It was pretty smooth, so nothing like military spec nylon webbing.
I think I'm just going to go with the 2" tubular from REI and rig it how I rig my 1" lines.
This video shows how... all I need is 2 inch rappel rings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouEJrfp4BY0
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sungam
Apr 27, 2011, 9:50 AM
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When I said "webbing" I meant 1" tubular. I have mostly set up lines with beaners and the ratchet is without a doubt faster.
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sungam
Apr 27, 2011, 10:04 AM
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sungam wrote: When I said "webbing" I meant 1" tubular. I have mostly set up lines with beaners and the ratchet is without a doubt faster.
Huh, just noticed you said 2"... weird.
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frankiethefish15
May 26, 2011, 3:41 PM
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Jibline is way different that just normal 2" Tubular.
I have walked 2" Tubular and it was just weird, nothing like the Jibline what so ever. Gibbon actually had a proto-type of a jibline with 2" Tubular webbing and it also very strange. I'd just go with the regular Jibline.
With ratchet vs. carabiners in a 2" setup I would much rather go with the ratchet. The ratchets that come with the Gibbon sets are made/selected to work with the webbing it comes with. No fears of breaking a ratchet unless you are using it incorrectly or overloading it. I have seen way way way more carabiners break than ratchets. And with the tensions put on the Jiblines for doing all the tricks you see in the Gibbon videos you would be needing to use pulleys and not just carabiners.
Hope that helps
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taydude
May 26, 2011, 4:50 PM
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The jibline is sewn specially to have extra bounce for aerial tricks and such.
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SlacklifeNC
Feb 28, 2012, 1:05 PM
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Jibline is tubular
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sungam
Feb 28, 2012, 10:32 PM
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SlacklifeNC wrote: Jibline is tubular
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