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May 27, 2011, 2:42 PM
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A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there???
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chadnsc
May 27, 2011, 3:03 PM
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Never grabbed at the draws but then again I have cried like a wounded kindergartner when I've taken falls.
Does downclimbing to your last piece make me a punter?
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May 27, 2011, 3:05 PM
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Yes, that is like a touchback and is much worse.
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chadnsc
May 27, 2011, 3:10 PM
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Touchback? I know not what this is.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
May 27, 2011, 3:21 PM
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I'm cornfused. I thought you had to be on top rope to properly not go for it and then scream in failure.
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rtwilli4
May 27, 2011, 4:00 PM
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essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there???
I think you're a bit confused.
A punter is someone who has a route dialed and falls anyways. A punter blows a would be killer on-sight on a stupid move, way after the crux. A punter gets pumped whining about the lack of gear when they should have been climbing to the better placements.
What you are describing is more like a poser or wannabe or even a true gumby. Basically, someone who doesn't really get climbing. Or you could just call them a big fat pussy... but not a punter.
Trust me, it takes a punter to know a punter.
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redlude97
May 27, 2011, 5:18 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there??? I think you're a bit confused. A punter is someone who has a route dialed and falls anyways. A punter blows a would be killer on-sight on a stupid move, way after the crux. A punter gets pumped whining about the lack of gear when they should have been climbing to the better placements. What you are describing is more like a poser or wannabe or even a true gumby. Basically, someone who doesn't really get climbing. Or you could just call them a big fat pussy... but not a punter. Trust me, it takes a punter to know a punter.
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superchuffer
May 27, 2011, 5:32 PM
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can one chuff and punt simultaneously chunt?
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Colinhoglund
May 27, 2011, 5:34 PM
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essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there???
Thats funny man, punters make me laugh. Although I must admit that I have punted once or twice over the years . . .
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Toast_in_the_Machine
May 27, 2011, 5:39 PM
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superchuffer wrote: can one chuff and punt simultaneously chunt?
Puffer
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jeepnphreak
May 27, 2011, 6:13 PM
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essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there???
One of my climbing buddies does that when I get him on anything over a 5.9. ha ha new nick name for him. "hey punter, wana climb this weekend?"
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bearbreeder
May 27, 2011, 6:23 PM
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punting can sometimes be the "smart" thing to do ... sometimes not ...
ive downclimbed AND punted at the same time ... sans scream ...
maybe i shoulda went for it ... it all depends on your gear, the potential fall .. etc ...
hell ive punted from gear placement to gear placement ... ooohhhh the shame .....
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rtwilli4
May 27, 2011, 7:14 PM
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redlude97 wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there??? I think you're a bit confused. A punter is someone who has a route dialed and falls anyways. A punter blows a would be killer on-sight on a stupid move, way after the crux. A punter gets pumped whining about the lack of gear when they should have been climbing to the better placements. What you are describing is more like a poser or wannabe or even a true gumby. Basically, someone who doesn't really get climbing. Or you could just call them a big fat pussy... but not a punter. Trust me, it takes a punter to know a punter. My understanding of the term is similar to the OPs. Curious where you heard that definition?
Aside from this annoyingly egocentric ramble by Andrew Bisharat, I've just always thought that punting meant to screw up at the most inopportune time. My friends and I usually use the term when we are red-pointing (or not red-pointing) sport routes.
http://rockandice.com/...161-self-destruction
You probably won't get through the whole thing, but just read the beginning and scan under the bolded stuff. That's what I've always known punting to mean.
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May 27, 2011, 7:16 PM
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Nope, I am pretty sure I get this idea, but whatever.
As for chuff daddy's term puffer? Priceless. Somepeople absolutely do chuff and punt at the same time, they can't seem to help it, and a new term is born: Puffer
(This post was edited by essay on May 27, 2011, 8:35 PM)
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Dip
May 27, 2011, 7:21 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: redlude97 wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there??? I think you're a bit confused. A punter is someone who has a route dialed and falls anyways. A punter blows a would be killer on-sight on a stupid move, way after the crux. A punter gets pumped whining about the lack of gear when they should have been climbing to the better placements. What you are describing is more like a poser or wannabe or even a true gumby. Basically, someone who doesn't really get climbing. Or you could just call them a big fat pussy... but not a punter. Trust me, it takes a punter to know a punter. My understanding of the term is similar to the OPs. Curious where you heard that definition? Aside from this annoyingly egocentric ramble by Andrew Bisharat, I've just always thought that punting meant to screw up at the most inopportune time. My friends and I usually use the term when we are red-pointing (or not red-pointing) sport routes. http://rockandice.com/...161-self-destruction You probably won't get through the whole thing, but just read the beginning and scan under the bolded stuff. That's what I've always known punting to mean.
Damn it man. I clicked on it thinking "I'll show him, I'll get through the whole thing." But sure enough by the third name drop i was outta there. I guess i punted on the article...
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tomcat_ct
May 27, 2011, 8:20 PM
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Something else happens to me.Sometimes I find it very hard to leave the safety of a solid piece of gear or a bolt.To commit to the moves higher up isn't that much of a problem, but I just find it hard to go past my last piece or draw.
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May 27, 2011, 9:07 PM
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Dip wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: redlude97 wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there??? I think you're a bit confused. A punter is someone who has a route dialed and falls anyways. A punter blows a would be killer on-sight on a stupid move, way after the crux. A punter gets pumped whining about the lack of gear when they should have been climbing to the better placements. What you are describing is more like a poser or wannabe or even a true gumby. Basically, someone who doesn't really get climbing. Or you could just call them a big fat pussy... but not a punter. Trust me, it takes a punter to know a punter. My understanding of the term is similar to the OPs. Curious where you heard that definition? Aside from this annoyingly egocentric ramble by Andrew Bisharat, I've just always thought that punting meant to screw up at the most inopportune time. My friends and I usually use the term when we are red-pointing (or not red-pointing) sport routes. http://rockandice.com/...161-self-destruction You probably won't get through the whole thing, but just read the beginning and scan under the bolded stuff. That's what I've always known punting to mean. Damn it man. I clicked on it thinking "I'll show him, I'll get through the whole thing." But sure enough by the third name drop i was outta there. I guess i punted on the article...
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Send_Or_Spank
Jul 1, 2011, 2:54 PM
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rtwilli4 wrote: Aside from this annoyingly egocentric ramble by Andrew Bisharat, I've just always thought that punting meant to screw up at the most inopportune time. My friends and I usually use the term when we are red-pointing (or not red-pointing) sport routes. http://rockandice.com/...161-self-destruction You probably won't get through the whole thing, but just read the beginning and scan under the bolded stuff. That's what I've always known punting to mean.
Cool story bro
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Jul 1, 2011, 3:55 PM
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essay wrote: A punter is one who does not go for it on a route, never takes a fall, usually grabs the draws, and screams take like a wounded animal. It comes from the football concept of punting the ball instead of going for it on 4th down. While punting the ball is the safe move, it's hard to get to your goal when you refuse to go for it on 4th down. How many punters do we have out there???
Looking for some solidarity eh?
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Diphthong
Jul 1, 2011, 4:22 PM
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So, if I grab draws and pull my way all the way up to the anchors could I convert my punt into a field goal?
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Jul 1, 2011, 7:06 PM
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Shouldn't there be at least a minimum grade to be a punter? Otherwise every dingbat with a home depot rope and wind-surfing shoes is possibly a punter and something about that bothers me. I'm a punter just like everyone else but I paid full price for my New England rope and Sportiva shoes which let me climb a full grade harder than wind-surf shoes.
I think there needs to be a grade-minimum to weed out the pretenders. You have to have dropped a full-paycheck on gear to be an ellligible punter and you have to have made it all the way up at least one 5.10. I remember 5.9 and thought it was fun. I remember 5.10 and I really had to start working. So I purpose a minimum limit of 5.10a for a punter and a puffer is anything below 5.9r.
Do I have a second? A third?
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Jul 1, 2011, 9:54 PM
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Absolutly, this is my new definition of a punter. Now spread the word.
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