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JokerRick
Jun 27, 2011, 10:24 PM
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I picked up a BD ATC-GUIDE today, and didn't notice this until I got home so I couldn't compare it to other units.
On the guide "eye" outside edge, there is a slight crease, kind of like a seam in the metal. I tried to take a picture, but it's hard to get good lighting on rough aluminum. If you can see it, or have one of these and know if it's "normal," please let me know.
Thanks,
Rick
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Jun 27, 2011, 10:59 PM
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Mine is about 5 years old and doesn't show the same "groove," but I personally would not hesitate to use yours as pictured.
My first thought is that it is just a minor artifact from the casting process. If, however, you have any reservations then a call or e-mail to Black Diamond would certainly be in order.
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TarheelJD
Jun 27, 2011, 11:19 PM
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I have one of the new styled ATC guides (the side cutouts) and I have the same mark.
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TarheelJD
Jun 27, 2011, 11:37 PM
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Yeah, definitively looks like the byproduct of manufacturing and not a seam.
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rtwilli4
Jun 27, 2011, 11:55 PM
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JokerRick wrote: TarheelJD wrote: I have one of the new styled ATC guides (the side cutouts) and I have the same mark. I figured I was being a little over-conservative, but my two kids will be hanging from it. If it was just me I wouldn't have given it a second thought. 
You're kids weigh more than you do?
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JokerRick
Jun 28, 2011, 1:14 AM
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rtwilli4 wrote: JokerRick wrote: TarheelJD wrote: I have one of the new styled ATC guides (the side cutouts) and I have the same mark. I figured I was being a little over-conservative, but my two kids will be hanging from it. If it was just me I wouldn't have given it a second thought. You're kids weigh more than you do?
No, I'm just saying I'm reckless with my life, but not theirs. (and I was more or less joking anyway)
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justanotherclimber
Jun 28, 2011, 4:35 AM
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fwiw, the ATC-Guide is hot forged, so a seam is unlikely.
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sp115
Jun 28, 2011, 4:55 AM
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justanotherclimber wrote: fwiw, the ATC-Guide is hot forged, so a seam is unlikely.
Yes, the ATC is hot forged and while you won't find a knit line like a casting you will find striations. These are typical of the process and offer no reason for concern (your ATC is fine).
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rtwilli4
Jun 28, 2011, 1:06 PM
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JokerRick wrote: rtwilli4 wrote: JokerRick wrote: TarheelJD wrote: I have one of the new styled ATC guides (the side cutouts) and I have the same mark. I figured I was being a little over-conservative, but my two kids will be hanging from it. If it was just me I wouldn't have given it a second thought. You're kids weigh more than you do? No, I'm just saying I'm reckless with my life, but not theirs. (and I was more or less joking anyway)
Me to.
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robx
Jun 28, 2011, 1:58 PM
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this is making me curious. an anyone upload a picture?
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JokerRick
Jun 28, 2011, 8:44 PM
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robx wrote: this is making me curious. an anyone upload a picture?
There's a picture attached to my original post up top.
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maldaly
Jun 29, 2011, 4:39 AM
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This would be a perfect time to email that photo to BD and ask them about it. They actually have climbers and designers and engineers on staff there who actually know what they're talking about.
Climb safe,
Mal
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moose_droppings
Jun 29, 2011, 5:32 AM
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maldaly wrote: This would be a perfect time to email that photo to BD and ask them about it. They actually have climbers and designers and engineers on staff there who actually know what they're talking about. Climb safe, Mal
Awe, come on Mal. How about a couple more pages of all these entertaining explanations before we get the actual reason.
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JokerRick
Jun 29, 2011, 8:26 PM
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moose_droppings wrote: maldaly wrote: This would be a perfect time to email that photo to BD and ask them about it. They actually have climbers and designers and engineers on staff there who actually know what they're talking about. Climb safe, Mal Awe, come on Mal. How about a couple more pages of all these entertaining explanations before we get the actual reason.
Well, the truth is I don't care about the reason. I wanted to know if other ATC-GUIDE units had this, or if it was unique to mine. Since it's not unique to mine (which I've confirmed now from someone above and the store), I figure it is no problem. If anyone else is actually curious, fell free to send BD my picture.
Of course, I could e-mail them and ask if this is just something I should expect now that all their stuff is made in China. Alas, that would just open me up to the reply, "you bought it, dumbass." 
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