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majid_sabet
Sep 25, 2011, 4:03 PM
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what do you think of haul line as a back up protection in case you loose your lead line ( due to a severe accident caused by a major fall) ? This is where you are taking a 150 footer fall ( you gonna get really fu*ked) with nothing to stop you except, the haul line that is attached to your harness and hopefully anchored somewhere down below. Pictures of me and partner from years back
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coastal_climber
Sep 25, 2011, 4:46 PM
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Well it would be a FF2 on a static line. You tell me majid...
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moose_droppings
Sep 25, 2011, 4:48 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: what do you think of haul line as a back up protection in case you loose your lead line ( due to a severe accident caused by a major fall) ? This is where you are taking a 150 footer fall ( you gonna get really fu*ked) with nothing to stop you except, the haul line that is attached to your harness and hopefully anchored somewhere down below. Pictures of me and partner from years back [IMG]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3364/aidecopy.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5618/polkhb.jpg[/IMG] Depends. What is your haul line. Learn to climb on half ropes or..... Yer gonna die!!!
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moose_droppings
Sep 25, 2011, 4:50 PM
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He didn't say what kind of rope his haul line is. Some people haul with a dynamic line just for the reason of having an extra lead rope.
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majid_sabet
Sep 25, 2011, 5:11 PM
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coastal_climber wrote: Well it would be a FF2 on a static line. You tell me majid... static or dynamic but defiantly a long fall. I am not even sure if the back loop is rated to handle such fall
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moose_droppings
Sep 25, 2011, 5:14 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: coastal_climber wrote: Well it would be a FF2 on a static line. You tell me majid... static or dynamic but defiantly a long fall. I am not even sure if the back loop is rated to handle such fall
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marc801
Sep 25, 2011, 6:18 PM
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Oh goody. Another dumb mind game of an unlikely edge case that tries to totally remove all risk from climbing. Why should we waste our time?
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Gmburns2000
Sep 25, 2011, 8:21 PM
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back-up rope anchored at one end and attached your haul loop on the other end to catch a 150-foot fall? Wow.
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tomcat
Sep 25, 2011, 10:45 PM
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A local climber and guide was saved a few years ago here in New Hampshire by his haul line. Pretty sure it was a dynamic rope.He pitched from the belay ledge and went ninety feet to the deck, with the haul line just coming tight before contact. He sounded pretty sure his hydration pack absorbed some energy too. Walked away from it. Just a good thing his partner had tied off the haul to the anchor. I'm not big waller but when and if I haul a second line it goes in front, with a regular tie in. That said any time it's two ropes in my life, they are doubles(halfs), but that doesn't really work on a wall as well.
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