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UpToTheOzone
Oct 1, 2011, 4:31 AM
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I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything. We watched him get sketched out on a 5.9 and end up down climbing. Both my partner and I were hoping we wouldn't have to get involved in a rescue or do CPR.
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moose_droppings
Oct 1, 2011, 4:51 AM
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UpToTheOzone wrote: I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything. We watched him get sketched out on a 5.9 and end up down climbing. Both my partner and I were hoping we wouldn't have to get involved in a rescue or do CPR.
In reply to: What do you say to idiots at the crag?
Hi, whats your name on RC.n00b
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Dip
Oct 1, 2011, 11:33 AM
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moose_droppings wrote: UpToTheOzone wrote: I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything. We watched him get sketched out on a 5.9 and end up down climbing. Both my partner and I were hoping we wouldn't have to get involved in a rescue or do CPR. In reply to: What do you say to idiots at the crag? Hi, whats your name on RC.n00b
Hey! Idjits! We don't take kindly to your type around here!
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mckbill
Oct 1, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Perhaps nothing if the idiotic behavior is just a threat to themselves.
I was at Devils Lake, Wisconsin recently and witnessed a young man dangling his legs over the edge of Prospect Point. He was doing this for attention and hollering for all of his friends to look at him and take pictures. They were rightfully horrified.
My climbing partner and I were 10 yards away setting a top rope anchor. The young man was also looking at us, and we just thought it best to ignore him and look away.
I think if we tried to tell him how dangerous the situation was for him he would have taken more risks, or become scared. Fortunately his friends ignored him and resumed their hike. I was dreading the sound of screams and demands to check on someone who'd just fallen 90 feet.
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meanandugly
Oct 1, 2011, 12:40 PM
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I, personally,would enjoy getting involved in the rescue.
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shockabuku
Oct 1, 2011, 1:17 PM
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UpToTheOzone wrote: I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything. We watched him get sketched out on a 5.9 and end up down climbing. Both my partner and I were hoping we wouldn't have to get involved in a rescue or do CPR.
Usually I just say hello.
5.9 in skate shoes is pretty good.
Kind of makes me wonder who's the idiot.
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rastafarout
Oct 1, 2011, 2:03 PM
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Uhmm...On belay? 
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sungam
Oct 1, 2011, 4:20 PM
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Well, if they really hadn't ever climbed before but were interested to try, why not invite them to join you?
I actually met my favourite climbing partner around 5 years ago when I saw him and some friends screwing around on some boulders and invited them to join me in doing some actual problems.
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6pacfershur
Oct 1, 2011, 9:34 PM
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goofy kids freesoloing are idiots....goofy kids freesoloing and on the cover of national geographic are cutting-edged rock masters (or something like that)....go figure
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ClimbClimb
Oct 1, 2011, 10:28 PM
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6pacfershur wrote: goofy kids freesoloing are idiots....goofy kids freesoloing and on the cover of national geographic are cutting-edged rock masters (or something like that)....go figure
Exactly -- it's grade dependent. If they had North Face - supplied gear and were free-soloing 5.12 multi-pitch, it'd be okay. :-)
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ZeroContent
Oct 2, 2011, 12:59 AM
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Some gene pools are in need of some chlorine.
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notapplicable
Oct 2, 2011, 5:39 AM
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"You got it man. Go for the topout!"
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wonderwoman
Oct 2, 2011, 3:24 PM
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ClimbClimb wrote: Exactly -- it's grade dependent. If they had North Face - supplied gear and were free-soloing 5.12 multi-pitch, it'd be okay. :-)
If you're a free-soloer, does multi-pitch even apply anymore?
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notapplicable
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wonderwoman wrote: ClimbClimb wrote: Exactly -- it's grade dependent. If they had North Face - supplied gear and were free-soloing 5.12 multi-pitch, it'd be okay. :-) If you're a free-soloer, does multi-pitch even apply anymore?
I am going to ignore this very valid point because calling a solo multi-pitch sounds so much cooler when spraying about it later.
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jacques
Oct 2, 2011, 5:31 PM
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UpToTheOzone wrote: I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything.
What should I say to your mother if an accident happen?
I saw some sport climber in a trad route with any good pro. They didnt felt because they was confident in the protection. But I didn't trust any of them. Climbing after him, I was so scary to see the belay. I had to solo the route. Some one who climb solo, at least, he know that his life is in danger.
I agree with the guy who make the distinction between the first page of a climbing magasine and a kid who try to imitate the climber in a crag. If we want that the young imitate someone, we must also present the training of these front page climber. some climb every day and they do the route numerous time before being able to send it.
The reason of the need to show off is, in my opinion, the most important think to visualize. As some people said, bringing some kids in the vertical words by asking them is very helpfull for a person who like the void like me. I feel well on the rock.
For a children who need more attention from their relative or friend...the situation is different. When you ignore those kid, they are going to do more dangerous think to have your attention.
Are a kid idiot because he need more attention and do sealy thing...or are idiot who said that there is no difference between trad and sport because they want to be the top?
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sungam
Oct 2, 2011, 5:46 PM
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jaxx wrote: In case of accident I have to tell my mother? Trad climbers in the game, I see nothing good professional. They have a sense of security because they are not protected. But I do not believe any of them. After this output, I was so awesome to see insurance. I was a route. Some people who climb solo, at least he knew that his life is in danger. To show that, in my opinion, the most important thing is that it seems to be due potřeby.Mám like rock. Children who need more attention from relatives or friends ... The situation is different. When we ignore these children, they mean it will be more dangerous. The child is an idiot, because it needs more attention and Sealy ...
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sbaclimber
Oct 2, 2011, 7:40 PM
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sungam wrote: jaxx wrote: In case of accident I have to tell my mother? Trad climbers in the game, I see nothing good professional. They have a sense of security because they are not protected. But I do not believe any of them. After this output, I was so awesome to see insurance. I was a route. Some people who climb solo, at least he knew that his life is in danger. To show that, in my opinion, the most important thing is that it seems to be due potřeby.Mám like rock. Children who need more attention from relatives or friends ... The situation is different. When we ignore these children, they mean it will be more dangerous. The child is an idiot, because it needs more attention and Sealy ... English -> French -> Bulgarian -> Hindi -> Czech -> English.
...I think Czech -> English would have some how made more sense.
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damienclimber
Oct 2, 2011, 11:36 PM
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UpToTheOzone wrote: I saw two kids today probably 17-19 years old free soloing with skate shoes. When he first saw me, he asked me where to buy climbing gear, and said he's never climbed with anything. We watched him get sketched out on a 5.9 and end up down climbing. Both my partner and I were hoping we wouldn't have to get involved in a rescue or do CPR.
Gee you are so talented, wish I could climb like you when I was 17!
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rgold
Oct 3, 2011, 3:36 AM
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Kid heads up a 5.9 in skate shoes, gets sketched, downclimbs. What do you say?
"Dude, where'd you get those skate shoes? "
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shockabuku
Oct 3, 2011, 12:13 PM
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jacques wrote: ...I was so scary...
That's the part that will stick with me.
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superchuffer
Oct 3, 2011, 12:18 PM
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If they see Honnold soling on the TV, why shouldn't they?
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chadnsc
Oct 3, 2011, 4:41 PM
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Hey you guys want a belay on something? My partner or I can let you use one of or harness.
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markc
Oct 3, 2011, 5:10 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: ClimbClimb wrote: Exactly -- it's grade dependent. If they had North Face - supplied gear and were free-soloing 5.12 multi-pitch, it'd be okay. :-) If you're a free-soloer, does multi-pitch even apply anymore?
Good point, but I'd say there's a big difference between going ropeless at a short crag (~35') and something taller. You have a shot of living below a certain height.
I don't free-solo, but I'd imagine there's a difference between free-soloing shorter and longer multipitch routes in terms of endurance (mentally and physically). In terms of consequences of a fall, not so much.
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clee03m
Oct 7, 2011, 3:15 PM
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If you are asking a general question, I don't usually say anything. The idiots are usually guys, and they don't seem to take kindly to being corrected by a woman. I do pray that I don't have to get involved in their rescue though. Being that I am a doctor, I would probably have to take the resusciation over and stay with the idiot until the end. That would be a bummer since I have a very limited time to climb because I have a litte one at home.
With this kid, I would have talked to him about how to safely get into climbing. If he is climbing 5.9 with his street shoes without any experience, he is obviously very talented. I like that he was asking you about climbing, too.
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ZeroContent wrote: Some gene pools are in need of some chlorine.
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