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ablanchard17
Dec 7, 2011, 3:52 AM
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In fact using rap rings would technically be safer. but the added safety isnt really worth the pain in the ass. Because in reality if you get anywhere near the ammount of force needed to cause a rap ring to fail your rope would have failed long before then
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dan2see
Dec 7, 2011, 5:21 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote: curt wrote: Pamason91 wrote: Concise Question: Is it a safe practice to use a threaded rap ring as a master point instead of a locking biner? It's not unsafe but don't be surprised if we all laugh at you.  Curt I'm of the opinion that climbers need a minimum of four years experience before attempting to innovate
Repeat after me:
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
I will always use boring old-fashioned biners, just like the experienced climbers use.
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billcoe_
Dec 7, 2011, 3:57 PM
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The larger the surface area the longer your rope will last.
Toproping works a rope and shortens it's life more than anything....... short of towing a car I mean.
Thus, 2 LARGE (same size) steel lockers are the best. Large to reduce wear.
Steel Krabs are stronger than Alum and will most importantly keep the black aluminum oxide off your rope - so you won't feel the need to have to wash your rope as frequently. That will make the rope last longer as well.
If you use a rap ring anyway, it will be fine as it relates to being safe, although harder to set up and break down. Fixe brand makes a Stainless steel ring and much stronger than about anything else made, they rate 12,500 lbs. http://www.mountaingear.com/.../100724/N/1027%20641 The advise they give is this "This device is NOT intended to be used as a rappel or belay device (e.g. ATC, SBGII, Figure 8 or any other friction device). It is intended solely as a hardware alternative to bail-out slings, webbing and cord." I suspect that they were never asked the question you posed above.
Seriously, I thought this was a 5 star post:
dr_feelgood wrote: I'm of the opinion that climbers need a minimum of four years experience before attempting to innovate |
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