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ab2reza1360
Jan 13, 2012, 3:56 PM
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Hi all,
I'm new in this forum and really happy because of some responsible members
In these days I searched a lot about cordless hammer but i'm confused and can't select one of them.
I'm a rock climber and need a hammer to provide all my needs.
please introduce some models for me(one of the best with low price)
you can check this page too:
http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1489&articleID=536620&artnum=6
All advice and info will be much appreciated.
PS: bear in your mind I'm not a professional climber and don't want use this tool all times around a year.
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potreroed
Jan 13, 2012, 4:25 PM
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A lot depends on what you plan to do with this drill. Replace a few anchors? Bolt new routes ground up? Top down? Hilti and Bosch are the best but Panasonic now has a lightweight and inexpensive drill that is getting rave reviews both in Europe and the USA.
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USnavy
Jan 15, 2012, 2:00 AM
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I own the 11536 VSR and its a great drill. I have used it to drill 3/4" holes in 15,000 psi basalt before without issue. But as others have said, it depends on what you use it for.
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guangzhou
Jan 15, 2012, 3:10 AM
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I own a 36 Volt Bosh and love it. Put in about 3000 bolts so far.
Previously, my Bosh 24 Volt helped me bolt roughly 1000 new routes and to replace some anchors. Guessing 8000 to 10000 BOlts.
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jmichael
Jan 15, 2012, 5:34 AM
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I've never drilled rock, but my experience drilling lots of concrete and my experience with some of Dewalt's new stuff I'd seriously take a look into this one. If I was ever in a situation where I could possibly drop a cordless tool, I'd want it to be a dewalt, they take a beating better than anything else I've used.
http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless-concrete-sds-rotary-hammers-dch213l2.aspx
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tscampbell
Jan 15, 2012, 7:32 AM
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milwaukee v28 would be my best suggestion. i used one as a contractor for several years and it was simply more powerful and longer lasting than many corded drills i've owned. even seen it toss a grown man through a wall when a hole saw snagged on a rough spot. i haven't used it for bolting, but consumer reports said it was dangerous after a 2 day torture test of running full throttle and it caught on fire. enough for me!
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Greggle
Jan 15, 2012, 9:33 AM
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ab2reza1360 wrote: Hi all, I'm new in this forum and really happy because of some responsible members In these days I searched a lot about cordless hammer but i'm confused and can't select one of them. I'm a rock climber and need a hammer to provide all my needs. please introduce some models for me(one of the best with low price) you can check this page too: http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1489&articleID=536620&artnum=6 All advice and info will be much appreciated. PS: bear in your mind I'm not a professional climber and don't want use this tool all times around a year.
Spam...
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coastal_climber
Jan 16, 2012, 12:44 AM
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NOPE!
Hilti
Makita
bosch
milwalkee
dewalt/black and decker
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coastal_climber
Jan 16, 2012, 12:45 AM
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bring on the arguments :D
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binrat
Jan 16, 2012, 4:39 PM
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I had a DeWalt 18V for a few years. Worked great on limestone.
http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless-concrete-sds-rotary-hammers-dc212ka.aspx
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JimTitt
Jan 16, 2012, 7:11 PM
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Well, yes and no!
I´d dump Hilti off your list, probably the best drilling action but the price and the shit batteries mean most guys leave them in the cellar in the end or don´t buy in the first place.
Makita are good, we´ve 2 of these. A big and a small. I´d buy again.
Bosch-next best.
Metabo- slowest thing ever, I´ve relegated mine to home duties.
DeWalt- Good but generally not as good a deal as Makita.
Panasonic- Well rated by those who own them but limited marketing in Europe.
Milwaukee-no idea, that´s somewhere in the States isnt it?
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coastal_climber
Jan 17, 2012, 2:02 PM
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JimTitt wrote: Milwaukee-no idea, that´s somewhere in the States isnt it?
And Canada. Haven't really made a significant dent in the market tho....
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mattm
Jan 17, 2012, 6:15 PM
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Pretty sure the OP is spamming the site BUT...
I've had success with the smaller Bosch:
http://www.cpotools.com/...d-demolition-hammers
Not quite as fast as it's big brother but very manageable on the rock. For BIG projects and hard rock I might look at the bigger one...
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majid_sabet
Jan 17, 2012, 7:08 PM
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I have a ryobi gasoline operated hammer drill that I like a lot, its about 11 lbs but its the most powerful drill out there. Very hard to find item but defiantly a keeper and its great for drilling in remote area where recharging and lack of power is an issue.
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MomentSurf
Jan 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Hitachi!!! Under rated!! I never drilled rock, but the 18v Li-Ion lasts forever and goes through concrete/cement with ease! I've had the same drills/saws-all/impact driver/jig saw/circular saw for years now with no problems. They can definitely take a beating, that’s for sure!
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shockabuku
Jan 20, 2012, 5:33 PM
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As a general question for anyone with experience to answer:
How does drilling concrete or brick compare to drilling
1. limestone
2. granite
3. basalt
4. sandstone
5. quartzite
6. other rock that you specify?
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coastal_climber
Jan 21, 2012, 12:58 AM
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shockabuku wrote: As a general question for anyone with experience to answer: How does drilling concrete or brick compare to drilling 1. limestone 2. granite 3. basalt 4. sandstone 5. quartzite 6. other rock that you specify?
I'd say sandstone and limestone are the closest to brick/cement. Although cement gets stronger with age, its kinda hard to say
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USnavy
Jan 21, 2012, 9:03 AM
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shockabuku wrote: As a general question for anyone with experience to answer: How does drilling concrete or brick compare to drilling 1. limestone 2. granite 3. basalt 4. sandstone 5. quartzite 6. other rock that you specify?
(This post was edited by USnavy on Jan 21, 2012, 9:12 AM)
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gimmeslack
Jan 21, 2012, 1:20 PM
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I'd go for pneumatic. Much more reliable tools than cordless. Then you can put maestri's back up. I believe they didn't clean the compressor?
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guangzhou
Jan 21, 2012, 1:20 PM
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shockabuku wrote: As a general question for anyone with experience to answer: How does drilling concrete or brick compare to drilling 1. limestone 2. granite 3. basalt 4. sandstone 5. quartzite 6. other rock that you specify?
Hard to compare, while I find Granite to be pretty comparable across the board, it's not true of other rock type. Limestone and sandstone vary greatly for sure. Basalt has pretty wide range too.
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shockabuku
Jan 21, 2012, 2:18 PM
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Thanks.
I asked because there were statements about drill performance made above based on use in the construction industry and I was curious how valid they might or might not be.
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USnavy
Jan 21, 2012, 3:26 PM
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shockabuku wrote: Thanks. I asked because there were statements about drill performance made above based on use in the construction industry and I was curious how valid they might or might not be.
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JimTitt
Jan 21, 2012, 10:30 PM
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shockabuku wrote: As a general question for anyone with experience to answer: How does drilling concrete or brick compare to drilling 1. limestone 2. granite 3. basalt 4. sandstone 5. quartzite 6. other rock that you specify?
Like the others said, it hard to give general rule, limestone (which I drill mostly) varies from marble which is probably one of the worst to drill especially for bit wear to the soft orange stuff which is a pleasure and that can be on the same route.
Granite (which I drill a fair bit for test blocks) is generally hardish but shatters well under the bit, the close grained granites are harder to drill though than the coarse ones I reckon.
New bricks are easy, old wet bricks are hard as the dust is really sticky and you need more drill power and so on.
If a drill is a good performer in hard concrete then it should be good in rock, brick performance I wouldn´t really rely on as a judgement unless you are using engineering bricks.
Jim
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ab2reza1360
Feb 6, 2012, 6:42 PM
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Thanks all
You are great guys:)
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