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meanandugly
Feb 21, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Looks pretty cool.
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patto
Feb 21, 2012, 11:42 AM
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Very cool, but I can't see too much use for climbing. It might be a good rope for top roping but possibly not even that.
It seems a very good rope for industry and rope access roles including rescue.
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meanandugly
Feb 21, 2012, 1:24 PM
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Access is what I was thinking.
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donwanadi
Feb 21, 2012, 2:47 PM
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Could work as a haul line.
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yodadave
Feb 21, 2012, 3:49 PM
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presumably when the fuse breaks the rope is then toast.
yes?
no?
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Lazlo
Feb 21, 2012, 3:55 PM
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yodadave wrote: presumably when the fuse breaks the rope is then toast. yes? no?
In an industrial setting at least, I'd bet it's true.
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Lazlo
Feb 21, 2012, 3:56 PM
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Lazlo wrote: yodadave wrote: presumably when the fuse breaks the rope is then toast. yes? no? In an industrial setting at least, I'd bet it's true.
Meaning that most companies would replace it after a serious fall anyway.
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billcoe_
Feb 21, 2012, 4:52 PM
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Interesting. Edelweiss mfg a similar one years back. It's a low stretch rope you can press into lead service if necessary (like on a wall) and it will take 1 lead fall.
In reply to: Edelweiss low stretch ropes are the perfect combination of price and quality. Edelweiss low stretch ropes differ from American static lines due to the fact that they are designed to take up to a factor one fall. These ropes WILL stretch a little to allow them to absorb a factor one fall. The lines are made completely from Polyamide (nylon), which gives them a high strength rating. These ropes are great for cavers, canyoneers, and climbers. |
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USnavy
Feb 21, 2012, 5:01 PM
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billcoe_ wrote: Interesting. Edelweiss mfg a similar one years back. It's a low stretch rope you can press into lead service if necessary (like on a wall) and it will take 1 lead fall. In reply to: Edelweiss low stretch ropes are the perfect combination of price and quality. Edelweiss low stretch ropes differ from American static lines due to the fact that they are designed to take up to a factor one fall. These ropes WILL stretch a little to allow them to absorb a factor one fall. The lines are made completely from Polyamide (nylon), which gives them a high strength rating. These ropes are great for cavers, canyoneers, and climbers.
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USnavy
Feb 21, 2012, 5:09 PM
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I just noticed something deceiving about the YouTube video. The intro says that semi-static ropes will not survive a factor one fall over a sharp edge, but their special rope will. Than it shows some drop tests. However the drop tests dont appear to be factor one falls, they are wall above a factor one fall, close to a factor two fall. If they were factor one falls, the weight would start out close to the anchor point (in the middle of the tower), but the weight starts to fall from well above the anchor point. Watch very closely at :42.
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yodadave
Feb 21, 2012, 6:57 PM
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Lazlo wrote: Lazlo wrote: yodadave wrote: presumably when the fuse breaks the rope is then toast. yes? no? In an industrial setting at least, I'd bet it's true. Meaning that most companies would replace it after a serious fall anyway.
I guess i was thinking 3kN isn't a very serious fall to have to replace gear after. But i always hated physics so i don't know.
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naitch
Feb 21, 2012, 9:30 PM
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In the lefthand column http://www.beal-pro.com/anglais/all-speciales.php it says that it will handle 24 factor 1 falls...???
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USnavy
Feb 21, 2012, 9:33 PM
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naitch wrote: In the lefthand column http://www.beal-pro.com/anglais/all-speciales.php it says that it will handle 24 factor 1 falls...???
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naitch
Feb 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
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USnavy wrote: naitch wrote: In the lefthand column http://www.beal-pro.com/anglais/all-speciales.php it says that it will handle 24 factor 1 falls...??? I would imagine it would, factor one is not that severe (compared to the factor 1.77 that the UIAA does.)
But then scroll sown a bit further (still lefthand column) and it says 24 1.77 falls which doesn't seem to make sense to me...
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USnavy
Feb 21, 2012, 11:04 PM
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Yea pretty sure thats a typo. Beal's website has lots of errors on it.
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JimTitt
Feb 22, 2012, 7:17 AM
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In the original French they give 10 X 1.77 falls, 8.8kN impact. A pretty heavy beast though at 75g/m but going to be robust!
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barleywino
Feb 22, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Bluewater makes a similar rope, their Canyonline.
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snoboy
Feb 23, 2012, 3:52 AM
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patto wrote: Very cool, but I can't see too much use for climbing. It might be a good rope for top roping but possibly not even that. It seems a very good rope for industry and rope access roles including rescue.
I have heard of this used in a caving role. Fixed SRT lines etc. I would not want this for rescue... Easy to exceed 3kN of force in a rope rescue sytem, and then you would be bouncing around on a dynamic rope - not what you want at all...
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