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Clmbbend

Mar 18, 2012, 5:05 AM
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A carabiner sold at REI failed at Smith Rock this week. Its was being tested at a local climbing manufacturer for defect. No obvoius reason for failure. Most likely recall to follow. Material issue seems at fault. Minor injury reported. Obviously REI had nothing to do with accident but surely will be in touch with users and customers. Any further info please post here . Brand and model not told to me. Climb Safe.

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marc801

Mar 18, 2012, 6:38 AM
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Clmbbend wrote:

Which basically makes this post pointless. For all we know this could be a total fabrication. Why even mention REI?

acorneau

Mar 18, 2012, 2:22 PM
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Re: [Clmbbend] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (7 ratings)	Can't Post

Could it be that some of the fake Petzl biners* made their way into the REI distribution chain?

* http://www.petzl.com/...sions-petzl-products

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2460950#2460950

(This post was edited by acorneau on Mar 18, 2012, 2:24 PM)

shotwell

Mar 18, 2012, 5:01 PM
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acorneau wrote:

Could it be that some of the fake Petzl biners* made their way into the REI distribution chain?

* http://www.petzl.com/...sions-petzl-products

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2460950#2460950

This is as irresponsible as the first post. We have no useful information here.

bill413

Mar 19, 2012, 2:04 PM
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Re: [shotwell] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

Searching Google for

In reply to:

"smith rock" accident

restricted to updates in the past week (as of 3/19/12) yields three pages of results, none of which indicate a climbing accident this week; except for the two hits referring to this thread (one here, one from an aggregator that's picked up this thread).

I note that the OP registered today, this was his first post.

Someone hating on REI?

bearbreeder

Mar 19, 2012, 4:26 PM
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Re: [bill413] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (1 rating)	Can't Post

im not aware of any carabiner that REI sells that another retailer doesnt also carry ...

enuff saif Tongue

majid_sabet

Mar 19, 2012, 5:09 PM
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Re: [Clmbbend] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

what does failure means ?

broken gate, crack biner ?

a worthless post

wonderwoman

Mar 19, 2012, 5:35 PM
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bearbreeder wrote:

im not aware of any carabiner that REI sells that another retailer doesnt also carry ...

enuff saif Tongue

I have a few REI brand carabiners. They are very old and I believe REI stopped stamping their name on them for fear of liability issues.

Found this on ebay. Look closely for the REI logo on the biner's spine before the USA stamp:

But yes, unless someone comes forward with more information there is currently not enough info in this thread to be useful. I'm not afraid of my REI biners.

(This post was edited by wonderwoman on Mar 19, 2012, 5:47 PM)

billcoe_

Mar 19, 2012, 9:54 PM
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Re: [wonderwoman] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (1 rating)	Can't Post

Clmberbend doesn't say it's an REI biner. Could be a Black Diamond that was purchased at REI. Should we start a list of all the carabiners REI sells so that we can start speculating on which one it was that failed. I'm sure, from the first post, that it wasn't due to the biner being improperly loaded, cause he says there was "No obvoius reason for failure." "failed". Not - someone fell on it and it broke, it could have just been sitting there on the ground and fell apart on it's own?

I'll start:

Omega Pacific
Black Diamond
Camp
Mammut
Mad Rock
Metolius
Petzl.....wait, back up. Dude said that it was "being tested at a local climbing manufacturer". Smith? There's only one. That has to be Metolius.

So thus, we can continue the speculation that all Metolius carabiners are bad and thus need to be recalled or we will all die.

That's what I get out of it. But what we clearly need is 20 more pages of supposition, incomplete information and wild assed guesses till this thread plays out.

Regards

bill413

Mar 20, 2012, 1:07 PM
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Ok, I'll help fill this up with more speculation.

Doesn't have to be Metolius - they could have been testing a competitor's biner.

marc801

Mar 20, 2012, 1:44 PM
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billcoe_ wrote:

But what we clearly need is 20 more pages of supposition, incomplete information and wild assed guesses till this thread plays out.

Not really. The OP is either a troll or is massively butt-hurt over REI. In either case, until we get more details, for now we can only surmise that the OP is a bit of an ass.

[Edit to convert pre-coffee post to English]

(This post was edited by marc801 on Mar 20, 2012, 2:44 PM)

dynosore

Mar 20, 2012, 2:28 PM
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Clmbbend wrote:

You don't know the brand or model, so I think we can assume you've not even seen said item. Maybe the biner was broken by that axe you seem to be grinding against REI?

IPissonurproj

Mar 20, 2012, 4:11 PM
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Re: [Clmbbend] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (12 ratings)	Can't Post

Here's what happened:

Joe Deskjockey stopped by his local REI, just after leaving Starbucks, as he does each Tuesday evening before heading to the gym for a sick sending sesh. He's scoping out some new petzl spirits for this weekend's hardcore adventure trip to go crag at his local (within 8 hr. drive time) crag. all the sudden his quad skinny caramel latte with soy spills all over the spirit draws. This is really not cool so he jets outta REI to go change his prana pants and patagonia plaid T before heading to the gym. Unassuming consumer buys the soiled draws, which are now defective due to the extreme amount of caffiene which has jacked up the webbing....climbs, falls, decks.

billcoe_

Mar 21, 2012, 4:08 AM
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IPissonurproj wrote:

LOL, for the win!

moose_droppings

Mar 21, 2012, 5:48 AM
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billcoe_ wrote:

So thus, we can continue the speculation that all Metolius carabiners are bad and thus need to be recalled or we will all die.

For sale: All my Metolius biners.

Just to be safe: All my Metolius cams, slings, nut tool, harnesses, gear slings.

Also for sale: All pieces of fallen sky that have landed near any Metolius gear.
All gear I have that starts with a "M".

So.......is BD's stuff still OK? Sale pending.

bill413

Mar 21, 2012, 1:29 PM
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moose_droppings wrote:

billcoe_ wrote:

So thus, we can continue the speculation that all Metolius carabiners are bad and thus need to be recalled or we will all die.

Not if it's been on the same rack as your Metolius stuff.

moose_droppings

Mar 21, 2012, 2:44 PM
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bill413 wrote:

Not if it's been on the same rack as your Metolius stuff.

Entire rack for sale.

2 cars for sale: Low miles. Only used to carry me and my Metolius gear a few times.

ianwatson

Mar 21, 2012, 2:54 PM
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I plan to go to REI today and get a orange Metolius
mini to rack a #3 Metolius tcu.

(This post was edited by ianwatson on Mar 21, 2012, 2:56 PM)

moose_droppings

Mar 21, 2012, 8:53 PM
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ianwatson wrote:

I plan to go to REI today and get a orange Metolius
mini to rack a #3 Metolius tcu.

Does the insanity never end? Your just flirting with death dude.

wonderwoman

Mar 21, 2012, 9:03 PM
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moose_droppings wrote:

ianwatson wrote:

I plan to go to REI today and get a orange Metolius
mini to rack a #3 Metolius tcu.

Does the insanity never end? Your just flirting with death dude.

Perhaps he will be safe if he avoids using the gear at Smith Rock?

curt

Mar 21, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Clmbbend wrote:

A new poster failed in the Gear Heads forum at rockclimbing.com. He is being analyzed in said forum to identify defect. No obvious reason for failure. Most likely ridicule to follow. Butt-hurt issue appears at fault. Minor injury to ego suspected. Obviously rockclimbing.com had nothing to do with accident but surely will be in touch with users and other posters. Any further info please post here. Specific reason for hurt butt not told to me. Climb Safe.

Curt

marc801

Mar 21, 2012, 11:06 PM
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curt wrote:

Clmbbend wrote:

Excellent!!!

surfstar

Mar 22, 2012, 3:16 AM
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Climbbend - get bent!

All your biners are belong to me.

marc801

Mar 22, 2012, 6:20 AM
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surfstar wrote:

Climbbend - get bent!

He or she may have. From their profile:
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bill413

Mar 22, 2012, 1:30 PM
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curt - thank you for bringing this to our attention. Naturally, it is of concern to the whole community. Do we expect a recall on new posters, or egos, to be issued?

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