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AlexanderThorn
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So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking?
After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore.
What's your thoughts ?
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cragmasterp
Apr 25, 2012, 2:31 AM
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you should quit climbing and take up golf. or bouldering.
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Apr 25, 2012, 2:43 AM
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Your logic is sound. Less climbers at the crag = Less chance of someone dropping a rock or cam on my head.
Please make climbing a safer sport and quit.
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edge
Apr 25, 2012, 2:52 AM
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AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ?
Umm, enjoy the soup Enigma.
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AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ?
My first thought is to question how long you've been climbing, or if you've ever actually climbed at all.
Climb long enough and you'll hear about or even see accidents happening to people you know. If you're really unlucky you'll be the one having the accident.
Accidents are unfortunate, but they are a part of life, not merely this sport. Life is frail, and even if you devoted your entire life only to preserving your life, in the end it all comes down to sheer randomness.People die ever day by slipping on wet floors, falling down some stairs, getting hit by a car while standing at a corner, suffering a sudden stroke or heart failure that nobody could have forseen...
I think that if you take precautions like double checking your gear, wearing a helmet where rockfall is possible, knowing when to retreat instead of putting yourself in imminent danger, and climb with partners who do all of the former, you'll find climbing to be much safer than it would seem at first glance.
(This post was edited by squierbypetzl on Apr 25, 2012, 3:05 AM)
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jt512
Apr 25, 2012, 3:10 AM
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edge wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? Umm, enjoy the soup Enigma.
That was fast, but it's cheating to use your secret mod powers.
Jay
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jt512
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squierbypetzl wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? My first thought is to question how long you've been climbing, or if you've ever actually climbed at all. Climb long enough and you'll hear about or even see accidents happening to people you know. If you're really unlucky you'll be the one having the accident. Accidents are unfortunate, but they are a part of life, not merely this sport. Life is frail, and even if you devoted your entire life only to preserving your life, in the end it all comes down to sheer randomness.People die ever day by slipping on wet floors, falling down some stairs, getting hit by a car while standing at a corner, suffering a sudden stroke or heart failure that nobody could have forseen... I think that if you take precautions like double checking your gear, wearing a helmet where rockfall is possible, knowing when to retreat instead of putting yourself in imminent danger, and climb with partners who do all of the former, you'll find climbing to be much safer than it would seem at first glance.
You've been trolled and out-modded.
Jay
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squierbypetzl
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jt512 wrote: squierbypetzl wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? My first thought is to question how long you've been climbing, or if you've ever actually climbed at all. Climb long enough and you'll hear about or even see accidents happening to people you know. If you're really unlucky you'll be the one having the accident. Accidents are unfortunate, but they are a part of life, not merely this sport. Life is frail, and even if you devoted your entire life only to preserving your life, in the end it all comes down to sheer randomness.People die ever day by slipping on wet floors, falling down some stairs, getting hit by a car while standing at a corner, suffering a sudden stroke or heart failure that nobody could have forseen... I think that if you take precautions like double checking your gear, wearing a helmet where rockfall is possible, knowing when to retreat instead of putting yourself in imminent danger, and climb with partners who do all of the former, you'll find climbing to be much safer than it would seem at first glance. You've been trolled and out-modded. Jay
Please, 1st post of an account that bothered to use capitalized letters and he/she/it starts bitching about climbing being too dangerous to continue? Since it wasn't recycled, posted something that might be worthwhile to actual climbers (or would-be climbers).
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edge
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jt512 wrote: edge wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? Umm, enjoy the soup Enigma. [image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/410166-largest_STFU.jpg[/image] That was fast, but it's cheating to use your secret mod powers. Jay
When a post so inane and unintelligible as this pops up, I can instantly recognize the culprit to a 98% certainty without any special mod actions.
I do, however, reserve the right to verify my opinion and self congratulate my Sherlock Holmesian skills.
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squierbypetzl wrote: jt512 wrote: squierbypetzl wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? My first thought is to question how long you've been climbing, or if you've ever actually climbed at all. Climb long enough and you'll hear about or even see accidents happening to people you know. If you're really unlucky you'll be the one having the accident. Accidents are unfortunate, but they are a part of life, not merely this sport. Life is frail, and even if you devoted your entire life only to preserving your life, in the end it all comes down to sheer randomness.People die ever day by slipping on wet floors, falling down some stairs, getting hit by a car while standing at a corner, suffering a sudden stroke or heart failure that nobody could have forseen... I think that if you take precautions like double checking your gear, wearing a helmet where rockfall is possible, knowing when to retreat instead of putting yourself in imminent danger, and climb with partners who do all of the former, you'll find climbing to be much safer than it would seem at first glance. You've been trolled and out-modded. Jay Please, 1st post of an account that bothered to use capitalized letters and he/she/it starts bitching about climbing being too dangerous to continue? Since it wasn't recycled, posted something that might be worthwhile to actual climbers (or would-be climbers).
You do have a cute little n00b streak that comes out every now and then.
Jay
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The demographic has exploded over the past fifteen years to the point where Darwin is working overtime these days.
Despite the suburban gym birthday parties, TV and magazine ads, and everyone you know doing it - climbing really isn't an intelligent choice for everyone. My rough guess is 80% of the humans who will put on a harness for the first time in 2012 should probably leave it at a little dabbling and quickly move on to other, more suitable, pursuits.
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AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ?
when you say "after seen" , just to remind you that there is only one troll master here and you aint one.
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karmiclimber
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I did not get enough sleep last night. 
Anyway. Lots of things are thrilling and risky. You just don't think about it that way because its part of your everyday life. Driving is one that immediately comes to mind.
And like the other poster mentioned...being alive means that someday you will die. Life is fragile. Etc.
But rock climbing does not mean taking unnecessary risks. You need to be educated and cautious. Sometimes the unforeseeable does happen...climbers get injured and die. In my experience, the general public views climbing as a risky behavior because 1. they are afraid of heights 2. its not part of their daily lives 3. they haven't been educated in how it works 4. most of the time that they see climbing in the media its some ultra ridiculous movie or its on the news and someone has been killed or injured. And so on.
Is it worth the reward? To me, 100 percent. If its not for you, thats okay. There are a number of things relating to the outdoors and climbing that I won't do because to me, it is too risky. Use your best judgement and you will do fine.
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blueeyedclimber
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edge wrote: jt512 wrote: edge wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? Umm, enjoy the soup Enigma. [image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/410166-largest_STFU.jpg[/image] That was fast, but it's cheating to use your secret mod powers. Jay When a post so inane and unintelligible as this pops up, I can instantly recognize the culprit to a 98% certainty without any special mod actions.
Unless, as Jay says, you are cheating and can verify that assertion, I am not so sure. A couple years ago, I would have said the same thing...Enigma strikes again. Now, it seems like EVERYONE is Enigma (enigmatic?). IS everyone Enigma? 
Josh
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cragmasterp wrote: you should quit climbing and take up golf. or bouldering.
Don't be rediculous, bouldering is dangerous.
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edge
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blueeyedclimber wrote: edge wrote: jt512 wrote: edge wrote: AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ? Umm, enjoy the soup Enigma. [image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/6/410166-largest_STFU.jpg[/image] That was fast, but it's cheating to use your secret mod powers. Jay When a post so inane and unintelligible as this pops up, I can instantly recognize the culprit to a 98% certainty without any special mod actions. Unless, as Jay says, you are cheating and can verify that assertion, I am not so sure. A couple years ago, I would have said the same thing...Enigma strikes again. Now, it seems like EVERYONE is Enigma (enigmatic?). IS everyone Enigma? Josh
This definitely is enigma.
Even check out the last line of the op, a slight take off on the patented "What do YOU think?"
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hyhuu wrote: cragmasterp wrote: you should quit climbing and take up golf. or bouldering. Don't be rediculous, bouldering is dangerous.
You caught one!
Reel, reel!
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AlexanderThorn wrote: So is climbing worth the fun, the exercise ? Or is the thought of a grave injury or death not worth taking? After seeing the amount of accidents and deaths, I'm thinking maybe climbing is not such a great sport / activity. Maybe the risk isn't worth the thrill anymore. What's your thoughts ?
Your post made me think of this...
http://youtu.be/LN2wcOIfdk4
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Apr 26, 2012, 4:57 PM
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cragmasterp wrote: you should quit climbing and take up golf. or bouldering.
Both of those are even more difficult.
Curt
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karmiclimber
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LOL. That is the worst belay I've ever seen.
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karmiclimber wrote: LOL. That is the worst belay I've ever seen.
Sadly, that isn't the worst belay I've ever seen in a gym. I chose to only boulder in that particular gym.
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