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sparky
Jan 9, 2003, 1:14 AM
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What is the most difficult aid route that has been climbed free, for example Shinx crack is 5.13b/c or it can be climbed as A1.
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milesdesbrie
Jan 9, 2003, 1:21 AM
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The A1 Kor Roof on the South Face of Washington Column has gone free at 5.14, as has the Great Roof on the Nose.
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iamthewallress
Jan 9, 2003, 1:21 AM
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Most difficult when aided or freed? My hunch is that Sharma's 5.15 is the hardest free climbing route that can be aided. Not sure how close together those bolts are, but maybe it's a mere A0? On the other hand it's easy to imagine a long 5.0 (or even 4th class?) slab w/ real death fall potential if you tried to hook the minimal features w/ no other gear.
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bigwalling
Jan 9, 2003, 1:37 AM
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I've heard about routes being A4 and about somewhere in the 10 or 11's.
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timpanogos
Jan 9, 2003, 1:46 AM
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Ammon busts 5.11 moves with a full aid rack on! Sheese
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punk
Jan 9, 2003, 1:53 AM
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Bigwalling, It is totally making sense Since the aid grade based on the complexity of the placement and the hazard factor that u probably can do the move if u a solid 10 or 11 climber with less effort
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copperhead
Jan 9, 2003, 3:45 AM
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Any sport route is A0 given a long enough cheater-stick... My favorites are the ones that I can clip w/o a cheater-stick...
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passthepitonspete
Jan 9, 2003, 3:48 AM
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I have climbed A4+ aid pitches that probably would have gone free at 5.10 or maybe 5.11. [You'd just better not fall!] I have also climbed A1 pitches that have yet to go free, even after attempts by 5.14 climbers! The two just ain't related.
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