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tenn_dawg


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Yesterday I was lapping on my Aid Tree and after my final jug to clean, I took my GriGri off of the rope to stash it because I would be rapping double lines to recover my rope.

The problem is, in order to get the rope out of the GriGri, you have to completly remove it from the Locking Crab that it is on, and as soon as it came off...

rattle...ting...(long pause) SMACK!!

A light came on in my head as I watched my grigri spinning into the muck at the base of my tree, and I could almost hear somewhere in the background the Diabolical Evil Laughter

"Bwah, ha, ha...I told you if it ain't clipped, it's gone!"

Problem is, There's no where to clip a backup into a Grigri durring the transition!

Hmmmm...Any solutions anybody?

Travis

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tie a thin string around half of the threwhole


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Yup. Get some small diameter cord. tie it to the GriGri and clip a knot on the other end of the cord to a biner attached to your harness.


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This issue has often crossed my mind. You should have seen me gingerly removing the rope from the grigri at each belay on my first wall -- it was like slow motion. I was super paraniod that I would drop it. Instead I just dropped a stopper and a quickdraw. I just know that some day due to inattention, fatigue, an ill-timed bump, the wind...something is going to cause me to drop that freakin grigri whicle I'm removing the rope.

The thin diameter cord around the non-pivoting half of the grigri is what I had in mind, but haven't tried it yet. I'll take a closer look tonight.

Ed


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Dude

you totally got to tie that thing on or it's gone. after dropping my gri gri loads during my training down at the local gym i looked the thing over and drilled a hole (3mm) in the plate of the gri gri where the black plastic sleeve sits.

Once you have moved the plastic plate by undoing the screw on the front of the gri gri you can thread a piece of cord through and tie a half fishermans to secure it in place.

Put the plastic plate back on and with the cord tie a barrel knot to your designated biner, which never has to come off your harness.

Hey presto the almost undroppable Gri Gri

take it easy


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Why not try this. After you unclip the grigri from the locker, carefully slide the back plate open enough (but, keep it closed enough to cover the rope) to put the locker only through one of the holes, now simply open it the rest of the way and remove it from the rope. I tried this one handed and it workes fine for me and I dont have to alter the device.


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It seems to me that if you had a small diameter cord through the non pivoting hole that it would be worn through really quickly.

For me, every solo pitch weights my Grigri with my full body weight numerous times while cleaning. Seems like the skinny cord would get pinched and break in no time. I'll try it though.

Travis


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Learn to use a clove hitch!!
josh


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Yeah, that's what you'll have to do if you drop it. And the one-handed grigri-half-open-slap-the-locker-back-on trick is a sure bet for me fumble it, too. Even with both hands.

The drilling idea sounds workable. Might try that.


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More idle speculation...

Why not drill a hole in the bottom that intersects the little screw hole, and thread cord throught that?

Replace the little screw that keeps the black plastic in place with a loop of cord.


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Any one talked to Petzl about this problem I ussually dont take my GriGri on multipitch climbs for that reason.


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You would if you were aiding climbing. Especially if you were belaying me for one of my 50ft, 4 hour epics (on C2). So I stopped for lunch...what's the big deal?


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how 'bout this....DON'T CLIMB STONED!


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I love climbing stoned....


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I agree with alpinerocket's simple approach. I use a similar process for my ATC on multi-pitch routes: Unclip rope and ATC from belay biner, reclip just the keeper wire on ATC to belay biner, pull rope from ATC. Its one of those obvous little processes that many of us don't think about until someone else shows us, or you drop your device!

Keeper cords sound fine. Personally, I'm not a big fan of altering rock climbing gear. But to each his own. If you drill, just be careful where you drill and that the hole is not too big.


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You may be interested in this post. It shows a modified GriGri for soloing.

http://www.geocities.com/nate_beckwith/grigri.htmlhttp://


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I love climbing stoned....
Then you better not climb with me again, Rich! I think I'm your "bad luck charm" when it comes to misplacing your stash. 8) Just don't "forget" whether or not you're tied in.


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Clip-in-loop to prevent dropping the Gri Gri when changing rope/opening Gri Gri.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=13474

When soloing you DON'T want to drop your Gri Gri.

Richard / SPIKE


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NICE job! What diameter drill bit did you use, and has it compromised the integrity of the grigri in anyway that you can tell (guess not, or you wouldn't be using it, huh?)?

Ed


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I've thought about using some 5.5 mm spectra cord through the pre-existing hole and tieing it directly to my belay loop. So what if it wears out fast? It'll be cheap and easy to change. The reason why I wanted to do this wasn't even fear of dropping it (although that's a good reason), but so tha I have more than one point of attachment to the gri-gri. mrhardgrit's tale was enough to make me want to stick with the SP and it's 2-biner attachment system!


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just use 1/2" webbing thorough the exsisting stationary carabiner hole and make a hero loop... it works like a charm
Just like this



http://home.mindspring.com/...ear/GriGriRigged.jpg


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Sweet picture Spike!


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Hey Spike what size hole and cord do you guys use?


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I did the same thing spike did but i did no drill through both sides. I took a steak knife an started a hole on the flat plastic side and only drilled until i could get into the hollow inner area. undoing the screw i bent the plastic until i could see what i was doing. Then I tied a fisherman knot to some cord an pulled as tight as possible. next I melted the knot together. finally stuff the knot into the hollow area and put screw in place. This leaves you with a cleaner looking clip in loop.
a friend of mine talked with Petzel and they do not condemn nor condone this procedure. I have had mine like this for 2 years with no problems.
If you need a visual take spikes pic and remove the knot poking out of the plastic on the left side. my knot is internal. the cord i used was the smallest one they carried at the climbing shop, maybe 4mill???

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