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simzboardr


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Being on a cliff for a few days sort of scares me for one reason. Im not really sure what to bring food wise. People mentioned that rice is good becasue its light and very filling, and foods like mac and cheese and canned stuff. But what about those freeze dried camp foods. Are they any good?

Stove wise... i take it you guys use hanging stoves. Is the MSR superfly any good, or what are some other sugestions.

Thanks for the help
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i'd pick up a copy of the NOLS camping cook book. Its got really good ideas for really really good recipes with very simple ingredients and cooking methods. works great for backpacking, so id imagine itd work for climbing too. could be wrong though


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Yes, you are wrong.

The food you take backpacking and the food you take on a wall are not the same. Often they are exactly opposite.

Try searching/looking back through this forum - this has all been discussed many times before.


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alright, that works gonna run a few searches


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Think about it:

Bringing rice or freeze-dried food on the wall makes about as much sense as carrying it across the desert [assuming there are no oases!]

Unless you are on an alpine wall where there is a source of snow you can melt, freeze-dried food is completely redundant.

Contrary to what you might at first think the best stuff on the wall is canned food - stuff like canned fruit and canned chili and stuff you wouldn't dream of taking on a backpacking trip!

I'll answer your question written to me shortly, but this'll get you thinking a bit.


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I've only done one wall. We took canned fruit, canned hearty soup (pop top lids); fishand beef jerkey; bagels, clif bars and balance bars. Not a lot of food for two days on a wall and we still had food left over.

Listen to Pete - I've read his posts - he knows everything when it comes to walls


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Good call... i guess having the food wiht the liquid is better... But how much water for a few days on the wall in the summer???

and yea...the bathroom issues.... what kinda food keeps your loads nice and firm...i know its gross but it would make life a lot happier


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Aside from the normal bagels, fig nutrons, Home Depot bucket full of tortillas and fruit, Dinty Moore Stews and so on...I think CANNED CORN is the real deal. Sweet, wet, refreshing. Never leave the ground without it. Also, forget freeze dried. You just have to haul the water to reconstitute it again, right? For a wall stove, you don't have to buy a really expensive hanging stove. For $25 you can get a tiny butane stove that screws on top of a fuel canister. That way it doesn't take a lot of room, and the wide cans are stable enough if you're careful. Makes your morning espresso a real treat.


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I'm bringing gallons of fruit cocktial and speghetti-o's on my next wall. I'm debating the stove issue. I'll pop caffine pills in the AM as a coffee substitute (I climb way too slow to have time for brewing/drinking coffee), so I'm debating the need for having a warm meal in the evenings. Not sure if I can choke down cold Dinty Moore, though...

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the best stuff on the wall is canned food

Canned food is ok but a lot of food that used to only be available in cans is now found in soft foil pouches wich are great for big wall climbing.

Which would you rather haul...
http://www.starkist.com/...flavorfreshpouch.jpg
or...
http://www.starkist.com/...mages/chunklight.jpg


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Right on Dave! Tastee Bites are high calorie, taste good cold, and are a lot less heavy/bulky than canned stuff. If you decide to bring the stove, you can cook them in boiling water and then use that same water to make couscous or tea. I've only had a stove up there with me once, and it was quite a treat. It was also a few weeks ago when it was friggin' cold, and we were half expecting to get stormed off anyway (which we did get...). I wouldn't bother with it in the summer. Besides, I never have time to actually cook something. More common is that I'm so tired at the end of the day I barely bother to eat. Those little cans of Starbucks Doubleshot are life-giving elixer when you start bonkining.


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